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Kerry, Lieberman urge ouster of Army officer
Boston Globe ^ | 10/18/2003 | Raja Mishra

Posted on 10/18/2003 6:09:36 AM PDT by RJCogburn

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:10:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Two Democratic presidential candidates speaking before an Arab-American audience yesterday called on the Bush administration to dismiss a high-ranking Army official for claiming that Muslims did not worship a "real God."

Senators John F. Kerry of Massachusetts and Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut condemned the words of Lieutenant General William Boykin, the officer leading the hunt for Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Boykin told evangelical Christian audiences that God was on the side of America's war on terrorism and said that Muslims worship an "idol." The comments were made public in a report aired on NBC News this week.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2004; christianpersecution; enemy; kerry; lieberman; williamboykin
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To: Clara Lou
In their role as jackbooted agents of the state, Kerry and Lieberman have overlooked the "no religious test" part of the Constitution as well.

Both of these guys may be in trouble should a "religious test" regarding "correct religious belief" ever be established.

21 posted on 10/18/2003 6:52:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: OpusatFR
Wasn't this guy speaking to his own congregation in his church?

Yes, but Christians are not supposed to speak their beliefs or opinions in anyway that might possibly be repeated particularly if said speech has a greater than 1 chance in a trillion of slightly offending anyone living or dead. Other than that, they are protected by the first ammendment.

22 posted on 10/18/2003 6:53:07 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: OldSmaj
The people of Ohio should be ashamed for putting this damn doofus in office.

I have two words for you, James Trafficant. There must be something in their water.

23 posted on 10/18/2003 6:56:29 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Kewlhand`tek
While they're at it, there's a NY House Dem who repeatedly used the term "redneck" on MSNBC's Hearltand a few weeks ago.

"Redneck" is an ethnic slur orignially meant to denegrate immigrant farm laborers. Its no different than saying "spic" or "nigger".

The man is a bigoted racist and should be censured & removed. But some animals are more equal than others.
24 posted on 10/18/2003 6:57:06 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: LadyPilgrim
"Mister, we could use a man like Ronald Reagan again..."
25 posted on 10/18/2003 6:58:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: All
I'll simply quote from something that a friend of mine wrote.

"If you think Islam is not a sickness unto death, look at what it has done to Muslims. Most Muslims live in grim, despotic countries without basic civil liberties or a decent standard of living. They are subjected to cruel and unusual punishments. They are brainwashed into believing that self-righteousness and hate are religious virtues, and that paradise means imposing the same misery on everyone else.

"This is not the way I want to live. This is not the future I want to bequeath to my grandchildren. To encourage Islam's growth in this country is insanity, like promoting the growth of cancer in the body politic."

I think that my friend has pretty well summed up the situation with his words and I endorse what he said.

26 posted on 10/18/2003 7:01:00 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: davisfh
And they teach it to their children.
27 posted on 10/18/2003 7:05:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I like your style!
I don't see one like that on the horizon.

I think GW has it in him somewhere, but we all were thrown off kilter with the WMD mess and the fact we haven't found Bin Laden and Saddam either.

All this other stuff could have been ignored.
But the Dems grab at anything and run like............
Just to see if the media will pick it up.
You know, "Throw mud on the wall, and see if any of it sticks".
28 posted on 10/18/2003 7:08:09 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim
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To: Kewlhand`tek
thank GOD we have officers like that. LtGEN Boykin's rating with me just rose. and just to think if the liberals were not bitching about it I wouldnt know about it.

Remember the generals that were abruptly retired if they criticized klinton? The left loved it. You can't have an officer criticizing the president.

If Boykins criticized Bush, they'd hail his "courage", and demand he be promoted. People in the military have the right to express their opinions in public and private, but only as long as it advances the RAT agenda.

Look at the way the RATs treat Catholics. Catholic-bashing is acceptable, but islam-bashing (right or wrong) must be punished. They are very selective about which religions they want to defend from "harsh words".

29 posted on 10/18/2003 7:08:36 AM PDT by 300winmag (All that is gold does not glitter.)
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To: 300winmag
Matt.12:30, Mark9:40,and Luke 11:23
All state very clearly He who is not with me, is against me!

So it's clear where the Dems stand.

Also in 1 John 3:14 says We know we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren!!!

I think that speaks for itself! They HATE our FREEDOMS!

Just like I always thought! The Dems are against a Christian Believer's right to speak their mind.
But they, on the other hand...........
30 posted on 10/18/2003 7:26:32 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim
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To: RJCogburn
Interesting opportunity here. These pandering scum will speak against anyone and anything if they think it will generate support. We need to be aware of every incident where a neocommunist says or suggests an anti-American position and write each one of these weasels a message that starts, "As a life-long Democrat and one who has supported you in the recent passed, I am shocked and disgusted by the recent comments of ...."

A cluster of these message protestig the words, not of a non-candidate dem weasel (Sheila Jackson-Jerk, for example), but a neocommunist city official, the mayor of Philadelphia, perhaps, might get a nonsensical response from one of the candidates.

The lefties clap both palms to the sides of their heads and shriek, "You can't say that! I am offended!" and whine that the speaker should not be allowed to participate any longer. We see it here on occassion. We should try to enlist some of these pandering dems and put some differences between a couple.

31 posted on 10/18/2003 7:32:46 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: OldSmaj
The only way I want the rest of the world to look on America is with FEAR!!!!
32 posted on 10/18/2003 7:36:49 AM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: willstayfree
It fits.
34 posted on 10/18/2003 7:55:48 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: RJCogburn
A lot of the Arabs in this country are Christian and probably agree with Boykin. They escaped from places like Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq to avoid the oppression meted out by their Moslem neighbors.
35 posted on 10/18/2003 8:26:34 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: RJCogburn
Lieberman is Jewish...actions like his are the reason maybe that anti-Semitism is on the rise.
36 posted on 10/18/2003 8:29:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Tacis
a message that starts, "As a life-long Democrat

Been watching much "Washington Journal" lately? ;-)

37 posted on 10/18/2003 8:35:23 AM PDT by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: RJCogburn
The muslims will ride this indefinitely because it's the only issue they have and CAIR's entire mission is to be a squeaky wheel.

As for Kerry - Lieberman ... do any Americans seriously think these guys should be in charge of our defense.

The Pentagon needs to reply to the muslims along the lines of "in this country, we don't persecute our citizens for their thoughts". (We do of course, but that certainly wasn't the intent of the founding fathers). And if that doesn't work, "bite me" can be effective.

38 posted on 10/18/2003 8:41:36 AM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: LadyPilgrim
"STAND against the DEMs liberal agenda!!!"

It will never happen unless we get real Capital R Republicans: ( I have my flame retardant personna on, so, those of you so inclined, flame away)

For Shame, For Shame

For Shame, for shame,
you tarnish the Republican name,
you’re such an inept crew,
nothing more than, Me Too

Why don’t you show some balls,
fight their filibuster calls,
you talk a good fight,
you’re nothing more than
democrat light

You nominate people
to sit on the court,
when the going gets rough, you resort
to a whine and woe is us
refusing to show some guts

Oh, you threaten action very well,
still, your nominees are put through Hell
hung out to be vilified,
by people who have no substance,
no style

So, make up your minds
you incompetent clowns,
show us that your principles shine,
don’t let them beat you down

You have an R after your name,
but, you play the RINO game,
you spend our money like a drunk,
like that prior skunk

There’s much more I could write,
I’m waiting for you to fight,
the obstructionists in your midst,
come on guys, get pissed!

Copyright 2002 By John J. Lindsay. All Rights Reserved
May 2, 2003







39 posted on 10/18/2003 8:57:16 AM PDT by poet
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To: Ann Archy
Lieberman is Jewish...actions like his are the reason maybe that anti-Semitism is on the rise.

That's silly.

40 posted on 10/18/2003 8:59:40 AM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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