Yale sues over recruiters’ campus access

Defense News ^ | 10/17/03 | Gillespie

[pabianice]

HARTFORD, Conn.

[pabianice]

Something for Yale alums and hiring managers to remember.

[jwalsh07]

Fascist punks. They don't have to have the military on their august campus but to do that they have to refuse all federal funds and become a private institution. Until then they should be good little marxists and stfu.

[hedgetrimmer]

Politics is everything, education is nothing these days.

[Fenris6]

"faculty members say the policy violates the First Amendment, arguing that because the military won’t sign an anti-discrimination pledge"

More proof there is no common sense in Acadamia. You don't need a degree from Yale to figure out that the military is allowed to ROUTINELY discriminate: homosexuals, handicapped, too old, too fat, etc.

[A Simple Soldier]

I am not as "book smart" as these law profs at Yale Law School are, but I thought that the Congress makes laws and the military executes those laws. Don't Ask, Don't Tell is the law, not a DoD policy. If DOD were to sign the petition or whatever, it would be meaningless.

Again, I was not privileged with an Ivy League education, so I am sure that the brain trust up there in New Haven knows what should be.

[Tacis]

So, the neocommunists at Yale are doing the very thing they condemn the military for doing, discriminating!

[FormerLib]

All federal monies to Yale should be immediately suspended including all student grants and loans.

[Poohbah]

Yale is perfectly free to refuse access to the recruiters. There's a price tag, though--and beliefs that can be bought out by a few million here or there aren't sincerely held, IMNHO.

[Swanks]

Under a federal law known as the Solomon Amendment, the government threatened to withhold $300 million in research funding if the university did not allow military recruiters access to the career office.

Rummy and Bush have no b**ls. I would pull the $300M; build a recuiting Taj Mahal across the street from Yale, and cut them out of all Fed funding in the future.

[Poohbah]

Rummy and Bush have no b**ls. I would pull the $300M; build a recuiting Taj Mahal across the street from Yale, and cut them out of all Fed funding in the future.

They can't pull the money; the university IS granting access at this time.

[91B]

"Under a federal law known as the Solomon Amendment, the government threatened to withhold $300 million in research funding if the university did not allow military recruiters access to the career office."

Good. Play hardball with the little commies and they'll fold up like a lawn chair. They are ballsless wonders who only get by in the ivory walled academic ghettos where reality is optional.

[cake_crumb]

What EXACTLY is descriminitory about a "don't ask, don't tell" policy? Soldiers work in....battle is an intimate experience. It bonds soldiers together - the ones who survive in a way that is hard to describe. It creates a special closeness that lasts forever. This enhances a units performance. It's based on trust. The ultimate trust. You ARE trusting your body to others in the military.

KNOWING someone is gay and already feeling uncomfortable about that interferes with that ability to trust. It takes away from the unit's ability to function, because there are reservations.

The academic world will never be able to understand this, because it is too intellectually divorced from the bloody, dreary, dull, extremely exciting world within a world that is the military. It is something that must be experienced to be understood. Academia only loves the misfits because they fit some preconceived notions of how evil the military is.

[cake_crumb]

Even Bill Clinton stuck with the don't ask, don't tell policy, despite what he said to the contrary.

[Physicist]

The faculty members say the policy violates the First Amendment

Sorry. If you're going to interfere with the Constitutionally mandated defense of this country, you can NOT wrap yourself in the Constitution.

[Salgak]

Let them win their case. Then stop ALL Federal Funds to Yale **and** Yale Students. Including Federally-supported Student Loans. Immediately.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

By what legal authority can a publicly used college or university require someone to sign a non-discrimination pledge.This is so silly it is unbelievable.If the institution provides an office or other facility that does not mean anyone will go in there.In other words,only those that want to be there,will be there.

[quietolong]

I would like to take a line from this book ( Worth reading )

Crossed Currents: Navy Women from WW I to Tailhook
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/bookrev/ebbert.html

Because of lesbians in there barrack Woman felt SAFER sleeping in the men’s barracks then there own

[Pedantic_Lady]

Fascist punks. They don't have to have the military on their august campus but to do that they have to refuse all federal funds and become a private institution. Until then they should be good little marxists and stfu.

Didn't Bush I and II go to Yale?

[jwalsh07]

Didn't Bush I and II go to Yale?

They certainly did. They both also served in this nations Armed Forces and even though it wasn't the Army, they still get major credit.

Neither tried to banish the military from Yale.

You getting a feel for the nuance involved here?

[Pedantic_Lady]

They certainly did. They both also served in this nations Armed Forces and even though it wasn't the Army, they still get major credit.

Wasn't the first Bush drafted, though? And W. would have been drafted if he hadn't joined the National Guard...it's not like he volunteered or anything. I have a lot more respect for people who volunteer for the military, like my uncle. He was in his third year at Annapolis when a car accident crippled him, but he still worked as a civvie at an AFB for 20 years. I admire that.

Neither tried to banish the military from Yale.

Touche, but neither was ever in the position to do so. Yale is a private institution and should have the right to determine what organizations have access to its campus, but the government also has the right to cut off federal funds. I don't think the military would have a lot of luck recruiting at Yale, though; most people there are interested in all the money they'll make through their connections in the private sector.