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Wal-Mart, Driving Workers and Supermarkets Crazy
NYTIMES ^ | 10-19-03 | STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Posted on 10/18/2003 6:24:12 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: oceanview

41 posted on 10/18/2003 7:19:28 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: republicangel
the wal-mart supercenterhas the best produce department around, here in virginia.

Harris Teeter or Whole Foods only, for me and mine. Wal-Mart is okay for toilet paper, but cheaper is not better when it comes to food.

42 posted on 10/18/2003 7:19:36 PM PDT by Modernman ("In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women."-Homer)
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To: txflake
SuperTargets will bury Wal-Mart

I love Target, as far a discount stores go. There is something about the marketing, the packaging, the products--it just makes me want to buy, buy, buy. And I am not a shopper, in fact I really don't care for shopping.

But if I go into Target to buy a $10 item, I always end up spending $70 on stuff.

Now, when I go into Wal Mart, I feel like I have stepped into a third world piss pot. In fact, I can about sum it up, I was in Super Walmart yesterday, a 30ish Hispanic woman checked out in front of me paying with various forms of Federal assistance money and while I was waiting in line a transvestite walked by (no lie). That's my typical Wal mart experience.

43 posted on 10/18/2003 7:20:24 PM PDT by riri
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To: oceanview
Walmart is the race to the bottom in quality as well as standard of living. I guess an extra tumor on your liver is no big deal when there is so much money to be made. It's only a liver.
44 posted on 10/18/2003 7:20:30 PM PDT by virgil
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To: ambrose
My Wal-Mart has a deli counter where they slice the meat and cheeses. The one thing I don't like about buying meat at Wal-Mart is that everything is in 'Family Packs'. I am single, I don't need six steaks or 12 pork chops or 4 chicken breasts...I buy cat food and paper products there and my food elsewhere.
45 posted on 10/18/2003 7:25:51 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Cobra64
The unions are destroying their own industries.

The real problem: a CEO is making millions of dollars and his hired bean counters sitting around trying to get him an even bigger piece of the pie. Move it to China, pay the workers a penny on the dollar and the CEO can afford anything his greedy heart can imagine.

46 posted on 10/18/2003 7:29:16 PM PDT by dirtydanusa
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To: ambrose
You pay higher prices at Gelsons,

I lived in CA in the 70's and 80's. Gelson's produce sections were worth every penny. I did buy paper products and cleaning supplies at the cheaper stores, usually a Price Club.
I think the grocery store workers on strike are just talking their way out of jobs. Stores like Ralph's don't have the best goods or the lowest prices. If they are forced to have the highest prices, they're doomed.

47 posted on 10/18/2003 7:29:16 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Pikamax
Went shopping there just this afternoon.

I probably saved $10 to $15 compared to me getting the same items at the supermarket I usually go to.

I would go there all the time for most of my shopping needs but it isn't in the town I live in and sometimes it's just not practical for me to go there. Plus I don't like their meat department...
48 posted on 10/18/2003 7:32:35 PM PDT by The Chief (Heather's Daddy will be voting Bush / Cheney in '04!!!)
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To: dirtydanusa
" Either way, you cannot make a living on a Wal*mart salary.

I assume people are making it on a Wal-Mart salary, the question is what kind of living? People work at convience stores, fast food joints, etc. It may not be our style of 'living' but....btw, I learned last night that China is responsible for only 12% of our imports, Canada is the highest. Go figure.

49 posted on 10/18/2003 7:33:52 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: speekinout
I was in a Fry's in Phoenix two days ago and my checker mentioned they would be on strike in about two weeks. He said they were upset at Walmart as well.
50 posted on 10/18/2003 7:36:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Normal4me
Boy, when I worked in a supermarket in the late nineteen sixties, I made the princely sum of 50 cents and hour.

Absolutely nobody made decent wages in the supermarkets then.
51 posted on 10/18/2003 7:38:52 PM PDT by arjay
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To: oceanview
like i said in an earlier post, they have the best produce department around. they don't grow the stuff in the back of wal-mart. they keep it clean and fresh.
52 posted on 10/18/2003 7:45:50 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: Modernman
if i could afford harris teeter i would probably not shop there anyway. they pi**ed me off pretty good during the hurricane mess.
53 posted on 10/18/2003 7:49:08 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: republicangel
they pi**ed me off pretty good during the hurricane mess

How so?

54 posted on 10/18/2003 7:51:52 PM PDT by Modernman ("In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women."-Homer)
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To: ambrose
PSSSST don't tell Willie Green, another liberal poster here that UNIONS do have an impact.

"At Wal-Mart, the average wage is about $8.50 an hour, compared with $13 at unionized supermarkets."

57 posted on 10/18/2003 7:58:32 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Modernman
if i'm wrong, i will apologize, however on the news when they were handing out ice after the storm- they would only let people from the city that the store was located in get any ice.
i work near a harris teeter and would have gladly bought ice to take home to my powerless home. since i'm from p-town, no ice for me.
58 posted on 10/18/2003 8:01:48 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: oceanview
Oceanview,

"how do you know? are you testing the food?"

The price to be paid for not being in compliance with Good Manufacturing Practices as spelled out in the Federal Register is much, much too high for Walmart to risk. You can be assured that they have high standards for the handling and packaging of foods and for the cleanliness of their backroom and the people who work there.
59 posted on 10/18/2003 8:16:33 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: Cobra64
Auto workers in South Bend, Indiana are still wondering when Studebaker will re-open the auro plant there. The unions drove Stude to Canada, then they folded. I have absolutely NO love for the unions of the last 40 years. Been in 5 of them, Got screwed in almost every one by the flash guys in their expensive garb, who never lost a nickle when we were pushed out on strike. I once sat in the audience when we voted NOT to go out on strike, and the union called one anyway. Where unions are concerned, the JDL and I share the same slogan: "Never Again".
60 posted on 10/18/2003 8:23:00 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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