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SURFACE WARSHIPS: 21st Century PT Boat
StrategyPage.com ^ | October 20, 2003

Posted on 10/20/2003 10:55:53 AM PDT by John Jorsett

Another task in the Coalition's nation building mission is ridding Iraq's Persian Gulf waters of pirates. Coalition forces maintain a significant security presence in Iraqi waters in support of United Nations Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1483. Under 1483, coalition forces will provide law enforcement and security functions for the area until an Iraqi maritime security force can be established. During the height of the war, the Navy was on guard against pro-Saddam forces using the small dhows as bomb platforms.

Local pirates are believed to routinely prey upon both local traders and smugglers in Gulf waters. Most incidents are never reported nor do they occur near where coalition forces can be rapidly brought to bear, but sometimes the good guys get lucky.

According to the Office of Naval Intelligence's Maritime Log, pirates preying on local dhow traffic were interdicted by U. S. and Australian navy and U. S. Coast Guard crews on September 29. At 7.30 PM local time, a distress call was received from one of several dhows in the northern gulf area and a SH-60B Seahawk helicopter from the USS Fletcher was vectored to the scene. Using infrared radar, they tracked the boat with four persons until it could be intercepted.

The USS Firebolt arrived on scene with Miami-based U.S. Coast Guard Law Enforcement Detachment 407, who performed a thorough search of the suspects and their vessel. The Australian Navy frigate HMAS Newcastle dispatched a liaison officer and a translator to assist with the questioning of the four suspects. The boarding team found goods stolen from the dhows aboard the speedboat.

The Firebolt is one of the Navy's "Cyclone class" boats designed for coastal patrol and interdiction surveillance. In the early 1990's, they were considered too bulky for commando missions and too small for the regular surface Navy. Armed only with a pair each of 25mm and .50 caliber machine guns, along with two Mk 19 grenade launchers and six "Stinger" missile, these are the 21st century version of the venerable "PT" boat. While the crew musters less than 30, there are an addition eight Special Operations personnel assigned to these boats.

Everything changed after September 11th and the Navy agreed to pay for maintenance and operations while the vessels operated under Coast Guard tactical control. Five or six boats were manned by the Coast Guard, four were based at Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base and two worked out of Naval Amphibious Base Coronado.

In January 2003, the USS Chinook and USS Firebolt were assigned to maritime interception operations in the Persian Gulf. Pirates in the gulf waters can be quite brazen, even if there's no 'hot' war. On April 23, 2002, the Military Sealift Command's USNS Walter S. Diehl was passing through the Straits of Hormuz when the six small power boats sped alongside. The Diehl does not look like a warship and probably appeared to be easy pickings. The Diehl fired flares to warn the small boats away, but the boats did not back down and a gunner opened fire with a .50-caliber machine gun. The Diehl's gunner kept firing as the ship moved ahead and the small boats then sped off.

So between terrorism and piracy, the Cyclone class patrol boats might find a second life. The Coast Guard and Navy wants to keep at least five and, if funding is available, all 13 on the books. Considering that they only cost $23 million apiece and their relatively new status, it would make sense to keep them involved in the War on Terror.

As the global threat of piracy grows, naval forces may also have to rely on heavier weapons than those usually found on littoral or coast guard type vessels. At the end of September, United Defense Industries announced that they had been awarded a $79 million contract to supply eight 57mm Bofors-pattern guns for the Coast Guard's new National Defense Cutters, which are expected to be launched by 2006. Demand for these weapons could reach close to 100, if it's decided to install them on other Coast Guard and Navy ships. - Adam Geibel

USS Firebolt homepage, online at: http://www.novanavyleague.org/uss_firebolt.htm

USS Firebolt specifications, online at: http://navysite.de/pboats/pc10.htm.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; hmasnewcastle; miltech; persiangulf; piracy; sealiftcommand; uscg; usn; usschinook; ussfirebolt
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1 posted on 10/20/2003 10:55:53 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Looks like the old sub chasers.

I'm conflicted - I'd like to see it a little bigger - enough to handle a helo (which is the only way to project its power) and turbines vice diesels spinning variable pitch wheels.
OTOH, considering its mission, it seems a little bit big as it is.

2 posted on 10/20/2003 11:03:22 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: John Jorsett
speed? Range?
3 posted on 10/20/2003 11:04:27 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: John Jorsett
On April 23, 2002, the Military Sealift Command's USNS Walter S. Diehl was passing through the Straits of Hormuz when the six small power boats sped alongside. The Diehl does not look like a warship and probably appeared to be easy pickings. The Diehl fired flares to warn the small boats away, but the boats did not back down and a gunner opened fire with a .50-caliber machine gun. The Diehl's gunner kept firing as the ship moved ahead and the small boats then sped off.

Bet those pirates needed some fresh underwear?! I wonder how well this boat could repel something like happened to the USS Cole..

4 posted on 10/20/2003 11:05:32 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: grobdriver
They could easily add some Javelins or TOW's to it as well.
5 posted on 10/20/2003 11:07:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: John Jorsett
Using infrared radar, they tracked the boat with four persons until it could be intercepted.

There is no such thing as 'infrared radar'. Infrared refers to thermal vision using infrared sensative optics (cameras). Radar emits and receives a bounced radio signal. The acronym RADAR stands fro Radio Dection and Ranging.

6 posted on 10/20/2003 11:09:17 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: AppyPappy
These look like a 3/4 size destroyer.
7 posted on 10/20/2003 11:09:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: No Blue States
I wonder how well this boat could repel something like happened to the USS Cole..

Hell, they probably could have stopped that with an M-16 if they'd been ready for it.

8 posted on 10/20/2003 11:09:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: John Jorsett
Doesn't look much larger than my old sportfisher. Wonder what it's sea keeping abilities are?
9 posted on 10/20/2003 11:10:17 AM PDT by x1stcav ( HOOAHH!)
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To: John Jorsett
PT stood for "Patrol" & "Torpedo" These things are more like British MGBs (Motor Gun Boats).
10 posted on 10/20/2003 11:12:38 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: John Jorsett; Poohbah; section9
Seriously, these are nice ships, but there are two problems that I see with them:

1. We need about two dozen more of them.

2. They need more firepower. Figure those Bofors 57mm guns, a CIWS, eight Harpoons, and possibly even a couple of ADCAPs.

Right now, these make a good basis for something the Coast Guard could use - but I'd like a lot mroe firepower for a vessel headed into harm's way.
11 posted on 10/20/2003 11:14:16 AM PDT by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: scooter2
They probably used FLIR (Forward-Looking Infrared).
12 posted on 10/20/2003 11:15:24 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett; harpseal
Their main role has been to ferry ship boarding teams to hot zones. Their "weapon" is the RHIB inflatable with an armed boarding party, either SEALs or (now) USCG. The ship just stands off and keeps watch.
13 posted on 10/20/2003 11:17:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: John Jorsett
They probably used FLIR (Forward-Looking Infrared).

I meant to include a similar statement but got distracted by my lunch.

14 posted on 10/20/2003 11:18:45 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: hchutch
By the time you finished adding all that armament, the ship is either (a) too damn big for the littoral combat mission or (b) it sank at pierside from overweight...
15 posted on 10/20/2003 11:34:44 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
Yes, but the original PT had a tendency to be run down and cut in half by slower moving enemy ships os that it's commander could later become a war here. Can these new ones do that?
16 posted on 10/20/2003 11:42:06 AM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
The WW II PT boat was a boat and was made of plywood. Marine grade plywood, of course.
17 posted on 10/20/2003 11:44:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Poohbah
Problem is, this thing's a sitting duck for anything havier than a Boghammer or two...

At least add a couple of Harpoons or ADCAPs or something to give it half a chance. The things can't outrun an Exocet or some other missile...
18 posted on 10/20/2003 11:51:50 AM PDT by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: hchutch
Problem is, this thing's a sitting duck for anything havier than a Boghammer or two...

That's not its mission.

At least add a couple of Harpoons or ADCAPs or something to give it half a chance. The things can't outrun an Exocet or some other missile...

And before you know it, you have a Perry-class frigate and Perry-class price tag, and, gosh, we can't afford enough of them.

19 posted on 10/20/2003 11:57:42 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Held_to_Ransom
"Yes, but the original PT had a tendency to be run down and cut in half by slower moving enemy ships os that it's commander could later become a war here. Can these new ones do that?"

Not for the foreseeable future! LOL

20 posted on 10/20/2003 12:02:20 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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