The second American civil war: What it's about: Part II

townhall.com ^ | 10/21/03 | Dennis Prager

[wardaddy]

If it is ever to be, I'd rather sooner than later. I'm not getting any younger.

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[Bernard Marx]

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[Travis McGee]

I forgot that! Pretty cool! Maybe the Russian Nagant the fictional Ian Kelby used in my book was made in the USA, and returned after a long and circuitous path!

And the idea of Russians with lever actions is just cool as heck!

[Travis McGee]

Your 134 is a nice best case scenario, and we're all hoping for it.

[Porterville]

It is a soft-war... social science and social engineering are soft-sciences... very powerful because they fall under the radar of most citizens.

[Porterville]

It is a soft-war... social science and social engineering are soft-sciences... very powerful because they fall under the radar of most citizens.

[archy]

Do you know of any other books about the "second civil war" which are up to the minute in their history, including 9-11, the Beltway Sniper, the Patriot Acts? If you do, I'd like to hear about them

It's not quite that up to date, but the following has been revised as recently as 2001 in a screenplay version that's reasonably up-to date.

In this case the author posits a particularly sudden economic breakdown/crash, hardly an unlikely possibility, and the real difficulties come to pass as the fed.gov tries to regain/restore control after self-governance on a local order is more or less restored.

The screenplay Pulling Throughis on line and is worth consideration, and a hard copy version can probably be arranged; the author is a fairly common poster on the FALFiles webboard.

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[archy]

When George Santayana warned, “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” he did not mean exactly in every detail. We are not going to have a re-enactment of the War between the States.

I don't think that leadership of the sort or with the character of those who led the Confederacy either politically or militarily is there to do so today, but it's at least possible that it could develop, as such Confederate examples as Cleburne and Forrest did on that first go-around.

But that may be a mixed blessing, in that without such leadership, individual hotspots of conflict may particularly develop, and without a unified state or national command, it may get pretty difficult to get such things to abate once begun.

But I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see symbols of the Confederacy become rallying flags for some in the days to come. And possibly, the uniforms and unit designations and guidons of regiments from long ago as well.

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[PLMerite]

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[archy]

Not a war? Please explain that NBC show that put a "snipers wanted" sign on a photo of George W. Bush. Or how about Ms Totenberg's death wish for Lt. Gen. Boykin? (She changed it to a career death wish only after her fellow panelists expressed shock.) Alec Baldwin's screaming that Henry Hyde and his family should be killed? More examples have been posted here in the past.

Well, to be fair, a few isolated cases of verbal excesses by unwise individuals does not a civil war make.

I'll make you a bet: if anything, ANYTHING happens to *Jungle Jerry* Boykin, even if he should be hit by a meteor, for instance, I'll collect points very shortly thereafter for the entry of Cokie Roberts I just made on an online *dead pool* website that counts such sudden mishaps.

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[archy]

Let me refine my statement, then: I don't think any of the things Prager outlined would, in and of themselves or even taken as a whole, trigger an actual civil war.

And the indicators that Chittum has listed? How 'bout them.

In my book, Chittum and Prager have described the two sides of the same coin.

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[Travis McGee]

In my book, Chittum and Prager have described the two sides of the same coin.

Yes! And the fact that two philosophers of such different bent have arrived at the same conclusions adds tremendously to their validity in my estimation.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Re: "Here is a scenario that lightens my heart."

I threw my TV away ten years ago. I hope someone posts the news anchor(s) video. :>)

I strongly urge a Man on Horseback to lead. IMO it's not "if" but "when." It's very, very close to when.

I know I reported Karenna Gore's remarks accurately above. I did not know that there was talk by the leftist swine to actually hang on to office despite the Supreme Court -- though there had always been "reports" that the Clintons planned to hang on some way. If you're out there man, GET ON THE HORSE, ALREADY!

Regarless, IMO the catalyst would be the return of the "Fairness Doctrine." I made a personal vow that I would rather kill than see a return to the dark days when leftists shills could file complaints with government employees threatening conservative radio stations' licenses and shutting down conservative views.

And don't think the Internet is safe. Cass R. Sunstein's book, Republic.com, was well received on the left. It argues that citizens with bigoted, narrow views are a threat to democracy. Internet sites catering to such political views should be forced to offer enlightened views whether citizens want them or not. It doesn't take a lot of guessing to guess who the bigoted, narrow-minded folks are and what the "enlightened" views are. These guys never quit. They'll have to be stopped.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

Did you know that Remington manufactured many Mosin-Nagant rifles for Russia in this period?

I had a New England Westinghouse 1915. Got it for $40.00 ten years ago. Best forty dollar gun I ever had.

[clamper1797]

probably would think it was open season on Blue Helmets.

Oh trust me ... you have NO idea