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To: Jack Black
Not a war? Please explain that NBC show that put a "snipers wanted" sign on a photo of George W. Bush. Or how about Ms Totenberg's death wish for Lt. Gen. Boykin? (She changed it to a career death wish only after her fellow panelists expressed shock.) Alec Baldwin's screaming that Henry Hyde and his family should be killed? More examples have been posted here in the past.

BTW, if you are going to say the right uses language just a violent please cite sources. TIA.

What about those "I hope the war is a disaster, it will help the Democrats" comments from the likes of Democrat stalwarts like Ellen Ratner and salon's Gary Kamiya?

Ellen Ratner's pre-war comments, http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30414 or http://bulldogbulletinarchives.lhhosting.com/page32B1.htm

Fox News Channel's "Your World" Dec. 28, 2002

Gary Kamiya of salon.com, April 11, 2003 column.

You say, "the majority of leftists have denounced [symbolic violence against property]." I'd love to see a source or two. TIA.

You are correct about the 1960s groups. But my recollection was that darn few knew the intent of those groups. Guys like H. Rap Brown, Newton, et al. were presented on the "news" as civil rights activists and victims of "lawn order" racism, the term used to ridicule law and order concerns.

"Anti-war" groups chanting "Ho Chi Min is going to win" and waving their blue, red, and yellow "protest banner" (as the press called the Viet Cong flag) were featured nightly. So well presented by the press that North Vietnam general Giap honored the American press by calling them his best guerilla.

Yes, I remember those days. The difference today is we have a free press. In those days you had to depend upon limited circulation publications to get news. Many of us knew what was happening, the vast majority of Americans thought we were nuts. The majority accepted the sanitized images of the the leftist pukes. The New Left took over control of the Democrat Party in the 1970s driving traditional Democrats outof the party. Things cooled a bit. The Third Way was invented.

This is not a civil war in the 19th century model. This is modeled after the Revolution. It is not necessarily against the government either. It is similar in that "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such [evil]. . ."

Those abuses include PC, treason against our sovereignty by deferring to internationalists, the leftist pukes' argument that America is the "root cause of most of the world's problems," that our military is the biggest threat to world peace, and many more offenses listed here many times in the past.

14 posted on 10/20/2003 10:49:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
BTW, if you are going to say the right uses language just a violent please cite sources. TIA.

And please spare us the citations from nuts in obscure web sites; cite public high profile figures as in the "progressive"'s example above.

Every group across the spectrum has nutcases. These are not the ones that really count.

43 posted on 10/21/2003 5:44:02 AM PDT by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Not a war? Please explain that NBC show that put a "snipers wanted" sign on a photo of George W. Bush. Or how about Ms Totenberg's death wish for Lt. Gen. Boykin? (She changed it to a career death wish only after her fellow panelists expressed shock.) Alec Baldwin's screaming that Henry Hyde and his family should be killed? More examples have been posted here in the past.

Well, to be fair, a few isolated cases of verbal excesses by unwise individuals does not a civil war make.

99 posted on 10/21/2003 11:25:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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