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Boy killed while 'surfing' on roof of moving subway train in Manhattan
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 10.21.03

Posted on 10/21/2003 9:53:06 AM PDT by mhking

NEW YORK -- A 14-year-old boy who was "surfing" on the roof of a subway train was killed when his head struck an overhead beam and he fell to the tracks.

Eric Alvarez of Harlem was found dead on the tracks between two stations in lower Manhattan at about 4:45 p.m. Monday, said Detective Carolyn Chew.

While Alvarez was riding home from school, his friends dared him to climb to the top of the train, a practice known as "subway surfing," said Marisa Balde, a spokeswoman for New York City Transit.

He apparently had climbed the rear of a car and had reached the top when his head struck a steel beam in the ceiling of the subway tunnel, Balde said.

Another train ran over the tracks where Alvarez had fallen. Initially, it appeared that the second train killed him, but investigations showed that he probably died of head injuries and the impact of his fall, Balde said.

Alvarez was described as a computer whiz.

He "was extremely smart, too smart for that happened to him," an aunt, Haydee Alvarez, told the New York Post.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: darwinatwork; darwinawards; death; holdmuhbeer; holdmuhsurfboard; justdamn; splat; whatawaytogo
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1 posted on 10/21/2003 9:53:07 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

2 posted on 10/21/2003 9:53:32 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
Nomination for Darwin award. Moron.
3 posted on 10/21/2003 9:53:47 AM PDT by dagar
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To: mhking
He "was extremely smart"

huh?
4 posted on 10/21/2003 9:54:23 AM PDT by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: mhking
Alvarez was described as a computer whiz.

Well there's the problem. I notice he wasn't described as a "subway surfing whiz."

5 posted on 10/21/2003 9:54:44 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: mhking
The NY Post has a picture of his mother fainting when she received the news...horrible.
6 posted on 10/21/2003 9:54:52 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: mhking
This has been a big fad in Brazil for about a decade or more. Darwin material.
7 posted on 10/21/2003 9:55:46 AM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................God Bless and Keep Terri.....................)
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To: mhking; Bacon Man; Allegra; humblegunner
I'm evil and hellbound and all . . . which is why I laughed at this story.
8 posted on 10/21/2003 9:56:37 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: mhking
He "was extremely smart, too smart for that happened to him,"

Aparently not... Sad. My prayers go out to his family and friends.

9 posted on 10/21/2003 9:57:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Xenalyte
Gavity it is not just a good idea, it is the law. see Newton.
10 posted on 10/21/2003 9:58:11 AM PDT by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: mhking
Alvarez was described as a computer whiz.

Should've stuck to surfing the web.

11 posted on 10/21/2003 9:58:24 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: mhking
Will the parents be suing Mountain Dew?
12 posted on 10/21/2003 10:02:08 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: mhking
At least he won't be having children.
13 posted on 10/21/2003 10:02:41 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: mhking
"was extremely smart, too smart for that happened to him,"

Evidence would suggest otherwise.
14 posted on 10/21/2003 10:03:20 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: mhking
Looks like he missed the curl and wiped out. Timing is everything.
15 posted on 10/21/2003 10:04:44 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: grobdriver
Evolution in Action! Average human intelligence goes up a fraction of a point...
16 posted on 10/21/2003 10:07:39 AM PDT by Growler
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To: mhking
and had reached the top when his head struck a steel beam

Top of the world, Ma! (Bonk!!!!)

17 posted on 10/21/2003 10:09:57 AM PDT by xJones
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To: mhking
Even the cartoons the kids watch show the danger of riding on top of a train. Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd know better (now) than to do that.
18 posted on 10/21/2003 10:15:34 AM PDT by capt. norm (Rap is to music what Etch-a-Sketch is to art.)
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To: petercooper
Well, I knew MIT students to go elevator surfing and do shopping cart races on a fifth floor ledge...sometimes smart people do really dumb things...

Mrs VS
19 posted on 10/21/2003 10:15:40 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: mhking
talk about "Hangin ten"... this guys "plantin six" (feet under)
20 posted on 10/21/2003 10:17:48 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: mhking
Darwin smiles...
21 posted on 10/21/2003 10:21:13 AM PDT by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: mhking
Reminds me of "The Painted Bird," by Jerzy Kosinski, in which post-WWII European kids would lie between the rails, letting locomotives pass over them.
22 posted on 10/21/2003 10:21:57 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: dagar
Done. I just submitted it to the Darwin Awards site.
23 posted on 10/21/2003 10:23:28 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: mhking
How many of us guys here have done really stooopid things and just got lucky: running through subway tunnels,jumping from rooftop to rooftop, racing on public streets, backyard dirtbike stunts and so on..
24 posted on 10/21/2003 10:29:45 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: mhking
Mrs. Alvarez has asked Mr. Clinton's office to suggest some lawyers to represent her in the wrongful death suit against the city, the maker of the subway cars, and the firm that dug the tunnel.

Rev. Sharpton has already indicated that he will not get involved in this terrible tragedy because, "Well, the kid wasn't black."

25 posted on 10/21/2003 10:51:35 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: ffusco
I would surf on a train, but not a subway!
26 posted on 10/21/2003 10:57:01 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: mhking
Teen Wolf???
27 posted on 10/21/2003 10:58:59 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I don't want to Raise Taxes" "I think everything must be looked at" - Jennifer Granholm. (D))
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To: mhking
A 14-year-old boy who was "surfing" on the roof of a subway train was killed when his head struck an overhead beam and he fell to the tracks.

Mr. Computer Whiz never saw "Speed," I reckon.

28 posted on 10/21/2003 10:59:05 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: stainlessbanner
As long as it's a diesel!
29 posted on 10/21/2003 10:59:06 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: mhking
New York Again! What did Hillary Rotten know about the Steel Bars in Subways that inflict great pain in children, and why does she allow them to remain there? Is this yet another one of her ways to keep the U.S. population under control? (Hmmm, I can put nothing ((NOTHING!!!)) past her wretchedness you know.)
30 posted on 10/21/2003 11:19:06 AM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier - Than - Thou Socialist)
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To: mhking
I think most adults alive today are in fact alive simply because we were lucky at 14.

Prayers to his family.
31 posted on 10/21/2003 11:20:50 AM PDT by Tamzee (...This tagline has been tested on animals.)
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To: mhking
I have seen a lot of smart people who have no common sense. Poor kid. Reminds me of an episode of Six Feet Under.
32 posted on 10/21/2003 11:23:33 AM PDT by Rainmist
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To: capt. norm
"Even the cartoons the kids watch show the danger of riding on top of a train. Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd know better (now) than to do that."

That's right.

I've seen Yosemite Sam get clobbered numerous times at the entrance to those subway tunnels and mountain passes, and STILL he never learned, did he?
33 posted on 10/21/2003 11:23:52 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: mhking
Darwin winner?
34 posted on 10/21/2003 11:42:48 AM PDT by b4its2late (I get enough exercise just pushing my luck. This kid pushed it too far.)
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To: mhking
Sounds like another "Jackass" stunt gone bad.

Gravity - it's the law.
35 posted on 10/21/2003 11:45:45 AM PDT by Johnny Gage (Instead of getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I don't like and give her a house.)
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To: mhking
bonk
36 posted on 10/21/2003 11:47:09 AM PDT by RichInOC ("Low bridge, ev'rybody down, low bridge, 'cause we're coming to a town...")
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I'm don't think that they give Darwin awards to kids.
37 posted on 10/21/2003 11:50:08 AM PDT by baseballfanjm
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To: capt. norm

38 posted on 10/21/2003 11:53:21 AM PDT by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Xenalyte
I'm evil and hellbound and all . . . which is why I laughed at this story.

Glad I wasn't the only one.

39 posted on 10/21/2003 11:53:29 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: Growler
Some chlorine has just been added to the gene pool...
40 posted on 10/21/2003 11:56:14 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
Gavity it is not just a good idea, it is the law.

It's more an example of Newton's Third Law; specifically the equal and opposite forces exerted by the head and the beam on each other.

41 posted on 10/21/2003 11:57:23 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: mhking
Why do you post this stuff? What's the point?
42 posted on 10/21/2003 11:58:04 AM PDT by Codie
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To: Xenalyte
Ridin' the old Hellivator for evil thoughts, huh? I've done it too many times to count.
43 posted on 10/21/2003 12:00:13 PM PDT by cjshapi
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To: ThinkDifferent
Gavity it is not just a good idea, it is the law.
It's more an example of Newton's Third Law; specifically the equal and opposite forces exerted by the head and the beam on each other.


Although steel is somewhat pliable, which is what gives it its strengh. It will flex and bend before it breaks. The human head is different, it will just break.
44 posted on 10/21/2003 12:02:32 PM PDT by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: mhking
My seven-year-old knows that subway car "surfing" is a violation of the commandment, "thou shall not murder." Another government school related death, as far as I'm concerned.
45 posted on 10/21/2003 12:05:58 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: mhking
Look everyone! I'm Dennis Hopper!
46 posted on 10/21/2003 12:09:53 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
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To: ffusco
every damn one of us.
47 posted on 10/21/2003 1:18:54 PM PDT by steve8714 (I know how to spell, I just have fat fingers.)
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To: steve8714
We all have our war stories. Like the time I raced my buddy on Carmen's Road, LI. I passed him on a blind in the passing lane. I was white as a ghost when I realized what I almost did.
48 posted on 10/21/2003 1:28:35 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
I didn't do the shopping cart ledge races, but we planned the elevator surfing very carefully and took appropriate precautions.

The only time there was any danger was when a Campus Policeman took the elevator up to the top floor and stopped the elevator -- my friends were stuck facing a brick wall (if the elevator is stopped at floor N and you are on top you can get out at floor N+1 if there is a floor N+1). What the CP didn't realize is that there were also people surfing the adjacent elevator, who came up and rescued the miscreants he thought he had trapped. Of course, they had to leave the elevator with the CP in it stuck on the top floor (the "stop" button on the roof of the car overrides the "stop" button inside the car, and had to be set so that there was no danger of the cop making the elevator go down while people were crossing over to the next one).

49 posted on 10/21/2003 1:30:18 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: capt. norm
From The Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord
Copyright 1996-1997 by Peter Anspach

#81. If I am fighting with the hero atop a moving platform, have disarmed him, and am about to finish him off and he glances behind me and drops flat, I too will drop flat instead of quizzically turning around to find out what he saw.

50 posted on 10/21/2003 2:01:19 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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