The President Just Implied 'Imminent Threat'(Newspaper Correction)

Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | Oct 19, 2003 | Tom Brazaitis

[talleyman]

The U.N. found some such missile systems in the run-up to the war.

I seem to remember the troops finding some chemical-ready warheads during the heavy action, too.

[Mr.Atos]

Yep! Chaff! Interpret it as you will, but, your provocations are misdirected and won't provide cover here.

The extension of your comments bore no revelevance to the point being made... That some critical decisions on the part of our leaders are expected and demanded in situations where information may be tenous. Reflective hindsight is great if one is privy to precongnition. But when clarified facts are used by critics to subvert previous decisions, future judgment is compromised. When the facts are replaced with lies, the process of judgment as guide for action is replaced with uncertainty and futility. This is a recipe for disaster. We tried that sort of leadership before and we got three planes in the mouth for it. Its not that we do not tolerate introspection of this Whitehouse's decision-making process. But we are not so filled with disgust, distrust, scorn and hate for this President and this nation that we are willing to forgo our own judgment on the basis of the Left's irrational rage and subsequent lies. To do so would be to forfiet our security in a time of crisis. What seems to be lacking from the critics is an understanding that if they had any credibility, their suspicions might warrant some consideration. They don't in either respect.

We simply do not share your level of distrust in a Man (this President) who has proven himself as a tremendous leader time and time again. Nor do we share the hatred for this nation that has been evolving on the Left for the last 30 years. His critics have been at work since before he came into office. What credibility do they have left?

I have explained my postion for you. I have 'cogitated' what little of yours is relevant, Now, I suggest that you 'brook' some sincere contemplation of your own opinions.

[talleyman]

Thanks for the link!

[mathluv]

I am amazed that this guy seemd to buy the assertion that the President said "imminent threat" as fact without any research. Only when challenged did he bother to check his facts.

Even when he checked the facts, he won't admit he was wrong.

[mathluv]

Did you know he's married to Eleanor Clift?

No wonder he is so bitter!

[prairiebreeze]

So it's the US's job to go around freeing people from bad government?

Job? I'd call their freedom an added benefit of a necessary ME intervention. If you read the article you may have picked up that the author, not once spoke of the Iraqi people. He spouts the typical Me, Me, My, My obcession. I was pointing that out. Some outright lies are contained within it too such as: "Only now are we realizing that Saddam not only posed no "imminent threat" to us, he posed no threat at all." and :" Bush has admitted that Hussein was not directly involved in the attacks." So frankly IMO this author lost all credibility with this clap-trap.

Comparing Iraq and North Korea in military standards is like comparing apples to elephants. The NK army has millions of trained soldiers. Not the case in Iraq. NK has nukes. Possibly not the case in Iraq although the jury is still out. Every situation in the world cannot be painted using the same paintbrush. To try to do so would be dangerous and foolish. I happen to believe that we are in an intricate dance with the North Koreans. One that very likely may lead to military action, and you can't know how hard I hope I'm wrong. But considering the differences that I've mentioned, calm and measured steps are necessary with NK at this point in time. Which of course were also taken with Saddam over the years during various dances with him. It's my fervent hope that should efforts with the NK require stepping up from dancing, we will reap the additional benefit in the case of the NK people as well.

Finally let me add that we mustn't let the wide-spread presence of human suffering throughout the world paralyze us into taking no action whatsoever against it. Christ said to his diciples that they would always have the poor but wouldn't always have Him. There will probably always be down-trodden and oppressed peoples in the world. That shouldn't prevent us from alleviating that where possible especially when it coincides with our own foreign policy interests. Prairie

[prairiebreeze]

Talleyman I've read your response about 3-4 times now and find your quote confusing. I can't determine if it's meant to be sarcastic or not, but allow me an observation about children from my current experience.

I'm on a weight loss program and have frequently felt the pangs, no, make that pains of hunger. *Shrug*, just a fact and comes with the territory, but I've gone to bed hungry now for several days. It is humbling, in the very least because many of the planets children do this most nights. But I just realized where the difference is. They are growing, or at least trying to. Their bodies caloric intake beyond their life and activity sustaining requirments. Their pain must be at least double what I am feeling. Saddam withheld food from his people as punishment and to re-sell for profit as was quickly discovered by our troops and the fully stocked, yet undistributed warehouse inventories showed.

FWIW.

Prairie

[prairiebreeze]

Their bodies caloric intake

Insert word "need"

Prairie

[an amused spectator]

Generous as they are, my editors are not about to put their money where my mouth is, especially since they, and presumably Mr. Batista, have access to the same on-line newspaper database that apparently does not contain any direct reference by the president to an "imminent threat" from Saddam among hundreds of references by others to an unspecified "imminent threat."

LOL! Tom "Mr. Eleanor Clift" Brazaitis has a hissy fit because ordinary Americans can access LexisNexis on the Net!

How dare the unwashed bypass the Mighty Information Gatekeepers! :-)

[syriacus]

would that be an immanent imminent emanating threat?

Sounds likely.Though it could be an immanent imminent emanating figment of the imagination of the Bush-bashers.

[syriacus]

These are calculated acts of coordinated propaganda.

They are masters of malevolent manipulation.

[lainde]

ping~

[talleyman]

Part truth, part sarcasm. Saddam's murder, imprisonment and starvation of children was the most heinous of his acts, because it was directed at the most innocent of the innocent. (And yes, I am sensitive to the needs of children - I have a child of my own whom I lovingly think of as "Attila the Son.")

However, the thrust of my comment was directed at the looney left, who justify all manner of skullduggery with "it's for the children". Since the ouster of Saddam actually benefits children, the left must immediately cease all criticism, because "IFTC." (Of course they won't because their slogans are smokescreens to obscure their real intentions.)

I need to come up with a new tag for such double-edged comments - "</wit> </truth> </jab-at-the-left>" seems a bit much.

[desertcry]

Typical liberal media response when caught RED handed with a distortion: Ok, you caught me, now lets move on, Bush is a war monger. The liberal media just can't stop lying, their hatered for W is just too strong for their demented minds to know what truth is.

[prairiebreeze]

/jab-at-the-left>"

LOL, the left deserves every jab and double edged sword attack they get...and then some!

Thanks for the clarification. Some day AlBore will invent an internet that allows for correct interpretation of inflection and emphasis to the written word.

Prairie :^D