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The Wall Street Journal ^ | 23 Oct 03 | GARY ROSEN

Posted on 10/23/2003 8:24:25 AM PDT by sbw123

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: sbw123
As the article seems to suggest, the key cultural requirements, other than enough wealth to allow a leisure class who aren't working at the plow, are freedom and a sense of purpose.

For most of recent history, those elements have been provided by Christianity. These ideas came down from Athens, Rome, and Jerusalem, but it was Christianity that incorporated them.

Most significant for science, for instance, is the concept of the Logos, whether or not a particular scientist knows the theological term. That is, God is reasonable, and He made the world reasonable and made men reasonable so they could understand it. For Christians, as in the opening of John's Gospel, the Logos is Jesus, the Second Person of the Trinity. "In the beginning was the Word."
21 posted on 10/23/2003 10:06:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Andy Ross
Does Wolfram mention Al Jabar?
22 posted on 10/23/2003 10:09:03 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: ASA Vet
Johannes Keppler. He own the next farm over in upstate NY, when I was a kid. Shot me in the fundamental with rocksalt, once.
23 posted on 10/23/2003 10:10:27 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: balrog666
You know, I had that same problem...
24 posted on 10/23/2003 10:11:37 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
You're not interested in discussing your comments on Newton's supposed theft?

Andrew
25 posted on 10/23/2003 10:12:59 AM PDT by Andy Ross
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To: patton
Shot me in the fundamental with rocksalt, once

Bet that smarted!

26 posted on 10/23/2003 10:14:07 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Proud member: "Old Crow and White Lightning Association" aka "MA power & light")
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To: patton
"And that is good for the top end, too."

No, I don't think so. The bright kids have always found a way to learn- I was bored in school, but I read LOTS of books, on eveything from Astronomy to Zoology on my own.

The problem now is that expectations have dropped so low that kids are being given "A's" for really mediocre work- and the textbooks are just pablum (I have looked through several, and they are eally dumbed-down, with lots of nice pictures and big print- are the kids all suffering from ADD AND presbyopia?????

My particular gripe is the "multiple-guess" test (and "objective" testing in general). It;'s good for the lazy teachers and "students", but does not really advance understanding of a subject.

Remember essay exams? Or a sheet full of physics problems and instructions to "show all work"? Hard to fake your way through those.

I was in Special Forces, and spent lots of time teaching various subjects to the people we worked with (you might be surprised just how wide a range of subject matter that encompasses- I once taught the elements of plane trigonometry to innumerate Laotian montagnards- they did quite well, by the way).

The exams were rigorous, believe me.

27 posted on 10/23/2003 10:15:37 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE ("Si vis pacem, para bellum"- still good advice after 2000 years.)
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To: Andy Ross
No, not really. I am old, but not old enough to have been there.

And I think you missed the humor in my "except for that whole calculas thing" comment.

Sorry, next time I will use a tag.

28 posted on 10/23/2003 10:16:59 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
I taught trig in a prison, once...you gotta see the humor in life. What did Einstein say, "The world surprises me every day..."
29 posted on 10/23/2003 10:19:52 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: ASA Vet
"Sometimes, dead is better..."
30 posted on 10/23/2003 10:23:38 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: sbw123
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler.- Albert Einstein

"We know less than 1/1,000,000th of a percent about anything." - Albert Einstein

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."- Albert Einstein
31 posted on 10/23/2003 10:24:11 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
I used to take a book to school with me of a mornin', and read it before the day was done. I was really bored.
32 posted on 10/23/2003 10:34:32 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: sbw123

Wile E. Coyote: Super Genius.

33 posted on 10/23/2003 10:38:26 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
You know what all SF'ers have in common? Really high IQ's. I would bet your team averaqed a GT of 135 or better.
34 posted on 10/23/2003 10:41:03 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
It took a 115 to even apply same as for OCS.- I took the screening tests with 25 others, and I was the only one in that group who passed. True story. A lot of them flunked the "Critical Decision Test", because they couldn't figure out that the FIRST PHRASE in each "situation" was really a mission statement- and all answers had to be directed at accomplishing that specific mission. And these were not dummies.

When I got onto an "A"-Team, I found out quickly that there are people MUCH smarter than I am! The liberal elitists will scoff, but getting onto an "A"-team was probably MUCH more difficult than getting into Harvard at that time.

Staying alive was even harder.

35 posted on 10/23/2003 11:02:07 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE ("Si vis pacem, para bellum"- still good advice after 2000 years.)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
On the other hand, my GT was 155 - so I had the sense to tell the recruiter from 1SFOGD to buzz off (COL).

LOL. I would probably score a 95 today - too many years in the five-sided funny farm.

36 posted on 10/23/2003 11:05:52 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
Imagine being stuck on a becalmed sailing ship for weeks with nothing to read but a 1997 Mechanics Illustrated.
37 posted on 10/23/2003 11:06:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
Do I get tools with that? I am sure I could come up with an alternate propulsion source - especially given the propensity of MI to use graphic enticements...
38 posted on 10/23/2003 11:11:35 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
Okay, so maybe an old MI wouldn't be so bad after all. You'd probably have a fresh water condenser and a paddle/oar system rigged up and be on your way in short order.
39 posted on 10/23/2003 11:22:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
See, you take the salt water and put it in a black plastic bag in the sun...
40 posted on 10/23/2003 11:25:42 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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