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Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996
Terri's Fight (website established on Terri's behalf by her parents and that side of the family) ^ | August 29, 2003 | Carla Iyer

Posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:54 PM PDT by First_Salute

AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make
this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed
continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a
Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.

3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in
Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo
was a patient there.

4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri
Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for
any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial
training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael
Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as
extremely odd.

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5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance
whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere
throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation.
Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be
close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always
had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as
"This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and
uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you,
getting right in your face and practically shouting.

6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for
Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to
believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens
while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted
nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of
motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and
again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no
range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named
Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a
wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together,

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and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and
misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert
and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence,
saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in
fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds
of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in
discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n"
sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort
by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal
area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included
pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or
moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a
bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper
and scooted in bed on her bottom.

8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always
recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way
toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a
"hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound

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being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories
about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle,
sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body,
upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need
to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in
her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but
by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's,
someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always
demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in
her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well,
writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would
always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote
so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive
entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job
was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a
patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act,
and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused

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on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?,"
"Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These
statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would
make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was
talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I
recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her
death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would
be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be
given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure
the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word
for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the
end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be
contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that
said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael
immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they
should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her
lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled
even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like,

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"Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the
nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her
temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently
asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!"
and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died,
which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among
other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the
door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically
be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be
trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold
sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction,
so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low
it was below the range where it would register an actual number
reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This
happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's
blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet
through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected
Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have

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any way of knowing for sure.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I
became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the
reasons I've said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named
Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular
concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift,
but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as
"They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact
that it didn't seem to attract any attention. She made many comments
about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it
was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he
complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the
time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth
more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to
this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were
cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated
by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would
do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at

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night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these
phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would
tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by
and let Terri die without the truth being known.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.

<signed>
CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.

The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August,
2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license
as identification, and who did take an oath.

<signed Patricia J. Anderson>
Notary Public

My commission expires
<Notary seal of Patricia J. Anderson>

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; livingwill; michaelschiavo; nursinghome; righttodie; righttolife; schindler; terrischiavo
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1 posted on 10/23/2003 5:58:56 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: FatherOfLiberty
Bump.
2 posted on 10/23/2003 5:59:47 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Affidavit
3 posted on 10/23/2003 6:01:00 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
I don't believe this for even a second. Total fabrication.
4 posted on 10/23/2003 6:02:38 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: First_Salute
Bttt!
5 posted on 10/23/2003 6:06:08 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: First_Salute
I have never heard of a nurse's notes being deleted. We do not even use white-out. I hope someone follows up on the intimidation that this Schiavo was perpetrating on the workers who cared for Terri.
6 posted on 10/23/2003 6:06:36 PM PDT by maica (Rush is in my prayers)
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To: Gophack
ping
7 posted on 10/23/2003 6:09:19 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Why?
8 posted on 10/23/2003 6:10:16 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
There are so many laws and regulations in place that would require the nurses/care-facility to have reported this type of behavior. The fact that there is no such evidence is significant.

This is an "affidavit" of someone who may or may not even exists, who may or may not even be a nurse, and who may or may not even be the actual nurse if there is such a person.

If this type of behavior and conduct was going on, then the nurses, and the facility would be subject to massive legal liability on behalf of the family.

No way. This is a total farce.
9 posted on 10/23/2003 6:13:42 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
While it seems unlikely, stranger things have happened...
10 posted on 10/23/2003 6:20:32 PM PDT by DB ()
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To: First_Salute
If Michael would sign over all insurance proceeds and future book royalties to her parents, I would believe him. Until he does that, I don't.
11 posted on 10/23/2003 6:20:56 PM PDT by rapture-me
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
I'm skeptical also. Lots of hyperbole in here. The systematic deletion of the nurse's notes is a bit hard to believe. This person is insinuating a systemwide conspiracy against Terri. If this happened, there had to be many, many witnesses to this behavior. Some corroborative evidence is needed.

I'm all for Terri continuing to live, but hard-to-believe, unsubstantiated stories only hurt her case.

12 posted on 10/23/2003 6:21:41 PM PDT by Toskrin
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
The bottom line is what if it is true?

We need to know, one way or the other.
13 posted on 10/23/2003 6:23:35 PM PDT by DB ()
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To: maica
Bump.
14 posted on 10/23/2003 6:24:59 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: rapture-me
Bump.
15 posted on 10/23/2003 6:25:12 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: DB
Bump.
16 posted on 10/23/2003 6:25:57 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: MEG33
The nurse is mentioned by name in the complaint filed by Terri's parents in August 2003. She's real enough.
17 posted on 10/23/2003 6:29:57 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Dude, it may offend your senses but it's all true.

Here is the federal lawsuit containing this nurses affadavit as well as another nurses sworn testimony concerning Michael Schiavos treatment of his disabled wife.

Read the entire brief and then come back and tell me it's "unbelievable". This is swor testimony in a federal lawsuit, not internet bs.

18 posted on 10/23/2003 6:32:57 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Toskrin
You too, click on the link in #18 and then get back to me.
19 posted on 10/23/2003 6:33:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: First_Salute
This is about what I expected from Michael Schiavo in regard to Terri's "care". This home is corrupt. Just follow the money. Some folks really need their jobs and will be quiet and do what they can privately as this one claims. Who knows maybe those that murdered the most in patients got a bonus check or a percetnage of the money they were after.
20 posted on 10/23/2003 6:36:34 PM PDT by nmh
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To: First_Salute
It's perfectly clear at this point that Michael Schiavo together with several other people worked to see that Terri's condition worsened, then used that worsening as an argument to kill her. Schiavo needs an eight foot drop with a three foot rope around his neck. So does his lawyer. I'll personally pay $100.00 if the State of Florida will let me be trhe one to trip the trap door on them. Several others in that organization need to be put before a firing squad.

Ask me if I have an opinion on this.

21 posted on 10/23/2003 6:37:19 PM PDT by RLK
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To: nmh
Bump.
22 posted on 10/23/2003 6:37:47 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: jwalsh07
Where did you find this?
23 posted on 10/23/2003 6:44:20 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: RLK
Your opinion coincides exactly with mine.
24 posted on 10/23/2003 6:45:18 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
I did a search for the nurse's license here but I didn't get any results for her in Pinellas county.
25 posted on 10/23/2003 6:45:39 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
ditto that. Don't believe. No way, no how.
26 posted on 10/23/2003 6:48:51 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: DumpsterDiver
CARLA SAUER IYER does not appear on any of the national (Lexis Nexis) people locators either.

Fabricated.
27 posted on 10/23/2003 6:51:21 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: stanz
I've been looking for it for a while and tonight lucked out on CNS story that had a link to it.
28 posted on 10/23/2003 6:55:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
What a strange conclusion you draw. Maybe she's in hiding.
29 posted on 10/23/2003 6:56:03 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Did you click on the link?

I'll assume either you didn't or you are did and suffer from an advanced case of cognitive dissonance.

It's in the federal court filing for cripes sakes.

30 posted on 10/23/2003 6:59:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Here's why I don't believe this: Why is Michael evil? It's because he is deceitful, homicidal, and has managed to cover his tracks by playing the grieving quasi-husband right?

Michael may be evil, but he ain't stupid. And he hasn't gotten this far by walking around hospital corridors planning out loud how he's going to spend the b**tch's money.

31 posted on 10/23/2003 6:59:18 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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To: madison10
"What a strange conclusion you draw. Maybe she's in hiding.
"


She does not show up in the Flordia state Registered Nurse license database. Nor does she show up in any of the numerous official/legitimate people locator databases.

She's not in hiding, she's a figment of someone's imagination.
32 posted on 10/23/2003 6:59:18 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Did you click on the link?

I'll assume either you didn't or you are did and suffer from an advanced case of cognitive dissonance.

It's in the federal court filing for cripes sakes.

33 posted on 10/23/2003 6:59:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
"I'll assume either you didn't or you are did and suffer from an advanced case of cognitive dissonance.

It's in the federal court filing for cripes sakes.
"

LOL. Do you think everything filed in court is true?
34 posted on 10/23/2003 7:00:08 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: libravoter
You can believ whatever the hell you want. To argue the affadavit was not filed in the federal courts and that another nurse also gave sworn testimony that she left that place of employment because of Mikey boys treatment of his disabled wife is the height of lunacy.
35 posted on 10/23/2003 7:01:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
"You're a fool."

No need for name calling.

And who is the fool? The person who believes something which has no objective verifiable proof, or the one who remains skeptical based on all known reliable facts?

If she was a real RN, she would be in the database, and in the people locator databases. She isn't in there - so until I see something legitimate, I don't believe it.
37 posted on 10/23/2003 7:04:38 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: DB
Someone pointed out on another thread that Michael's lawyer was on the board of the institution Terri was "warehoused" in. That would help explain the "orders" her caregivers were under.
38 posted on 10/23/2003 7:05:04 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: jwalsh07
To argue the affadavit was not filed in the federal courts and that another nurse also gave sworn testimony that she left that place of employment because of Mikey boys treatment of his disabled wife is the height of lunacy.

Um . . . I think you responded to the wrong poster. I believe the affadavit was filed, and I don't doubt the nurse is real. I just doubt that a man smart enough to have almost succeeded in pulling off a evil crime would be as stupid as the nurse claims he was.

So the only question I am asking is do you? Do you believe that Michael is an idiot?

39 posted on 10/23/2003 7:06:21 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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To: Let's Roll
The above affidavit is in connection with where Terri was held, prior to the hospice about which you have mentioned.
40 posted on 10/23/2003 7:06:46 PM PDT by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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41 posted on 10/23/2003 7:07:50 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
This statement is about her nursing job 6 years ago.

She may have retired, moved or is simply doing something else now.
42 posted on 10/23/2003 7:09:30 PM PDT by DB ()
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
There were no RNs listed with the last name of Iyer. There is this listed:

SAUER, CARLA ANN, Registered Nurse, PLANT CITY

43 posted on 10/23/2003 7:09:41 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: jwalsh07
This is swor testimony in a federal lawsuit

No, it's an affidavit. Testimony would involve direct examination and cross-examination, possibly redirct.

Do you have a transcript of her testimony in federal court or a deposition?

44 posted on 10/23/2003 7:12:28 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: libravoter
I believe the affadavit is real, also.
45 posted on 10/23/2003 7:13:34 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: libravoter
I just doubt that a man smart enough to have almost succeeded in pulling off a evil crime would be as stupid as the nurse claims he was.

Just think -- twelve years ago, no one in this country would have believed that a sitting President would get a blow job in the Oval Office from an intern half his age while ordering troops into Bosnia.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

46 posted on 10/23/2003 7:15:04 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: Catspaw
Do you have a transcript of her testimony in federal court or a deposition?

No, I have her affadvit. Do you have reason to doubt her honesty? If so, why?

47 posted on 10/23/2003 7:19:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: reformed_democrat
welve years ago, no one in this country would have believed that a sitting President would get a blow job in the Oval Office

Yeah, but he didn't walk around the Capitol Dome bragging about it.

48 posted on 10/23/2003 7:19:29 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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To: libravoter
Michael may be evil, but he ain't stupid. And he hasn't gotten this far by walking around hospital corridors planning out loud how he's going to spend the b**tch's money.

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He's gotten this far because of the mentality of people such as you and several others on this thread.

49 posted on 10/23/2003 7:20:18 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Catspaw
No, it's an affidavit.

It's illegal to file a knowingly false affadavit.

50 posted on 10/23/2003 7:20:42 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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