[bra]

I have been reading all these posts for many days now and can't take it anymore. "Kill undesirables"?... that is the most rediculous description of these events I have heard yet. All you folks that think "man, woman, or the state" has some right to play God need to get a life, or better yet, a good spiritual program. Life is greater than life's situtaion. A life situation is what we are dealing with here. There is much more to life than name and form. When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on. Why anyone would want to prevent that is perplexing. Is it selfishness? Keeping someone in name and form so they can feel good? Have you ever thought about yourself trapped in form by unconscious, selfish, insecure people? Create a great day! DE OPPRESSO LIBER

[Broadside Joe]

"I have been reading all these posts for many days now and can't take it anymore."

I did the same till a few days ago.

"All you folks that think "man, woman, or the state" has some right to play God need to get a life"

That's what has been happening, thus the attempt to preserve one.

"or better yet, a good spiritual program."

For some of the questions being raised, those that think that a further investigation is not warranted, would tell me that they had been in a certain 'spiritual program' which could be called Jack Daniels or even peyote.

"When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on"

By that rational we would no longer need intensive care units.

"Is it selfishness?"

Well that's what people want to find out. Some of the actions (if true) of Mr.Schiavo would tend to point in that direction.

"Keeping someone in name and form so they can feel good?"

That's something that neither you nor I can make a solid judgement on yet. There are too many questions at this point.

"Have you ever thought about yourself trapped in form by unconscious, selfish, insecure people?"

I sure have but this isn't about me.

[LPM1888]

I have been reading all these posts for many days now and can't take it anymore. "Kill undesirables"?... that is the most rediculous description of these events I have heard yet. All you folks that think "man, woman, or the state" has some right to play God need to get a life, or better yet, a good spiritual program. Life is greater than life's situtaion. A life situation is what we are dealing with here. There is much more to life than name and form. When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on. Why anyone would want to prevent that is perplexing. Is it selfishness? Keeping someone in name and form so they can feel good? Have you ever thought about yourself trapped in form by unconscious, selfish, insecure people? Create a great day! DE OPPRESSO LIBER

Thank you! Very few voices of reason have been heard on this website lately.

[drlevy88]

When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on.

Tell that to Christopher Reeve and Stephen Hawking. Or for that matter a newborn baby. Are you vying for the title of ghoul???

[Angry_White_Man_Syndrome]

What do you mean when a person can no longer SURVIVE on their own? So what about Christopher Reeve or Stephen Hawking, so we just let them die too. After all, they can not SURVIVE on their own. You imply the parents are selfish and insecure. I think you are the selfish one not wanting to be bothered with having to care for someone that can't give you something in return.

[Centurion2000]

When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on.

Babies can't survive on their own, should we kill them too ?

And if you have had ANY MEDICAL treatment at all you are being a hypocrite. Prehistoric humans were OLD at 35 because a broken bone would kill them.

[MHGinTN]

You pontificated, "When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on." Now, would you be pushing the quality of Michael's life will be so much improved if he's allowed to put down this dependent human being, or would you be promoting the notion that you have deemed the quality of Terri Sciavo's life to be so insignificant as to warrant not protecting it from 'put down'? Additionally, since you refer to her as a person, are you asserting that in your deep wisdom her personhood is not sufficient to warrant protecting it? ... I've a person in my household who cannot survive on his own, so you're advocating that we can just starve and dehydrate him to death and move on?

I realize this perspective you've offered is already dominant in the abortion industry, granting the woman the right to put down a life support dependent human being so she can 'just move on', but are you advocating we now apply that same enlightened approach to those already born who cannot survive on their own? Yes, unless you care to qualify your remarks, it appears you are advocating just that, extending the same enlightenment used to justify the slaughter of more than a million unborn human lives, to justify the 'putting down' of those who inconvenience the life supporter's 'quality of life'. How very Eichmannesque of you.

[Okies love Dubya 2]

I am 6 weeks pregnant, and obviously my baby as of now can't survive on his/her own--guess I should just move on!

Wait, my 5 year old and my 13 month old can't survive on their own either--guess I should just move on!

Little Logan (who is a FReeper, BTW), was born at 26 weeks gestation--couldn't survive without a bunch of tubes and machines for a while. He is home, but is still dependent on one tube. Guess his parents should move on too!

If Terri had been hooked up to ventilators and all sorts of machines other than just a feeding tube for the last several years, I might feel that it would be best to just let her go. Obviously, she has the will to stay alive--if not, she would have passed on a long time ago. So she doesn't have the quality of life you think is desirable--there are so many people out there who have been rehabilitated from conditions like Terri's. She hasn't even been given the chance! Oh, that's right, I guess we should just move on.

When someone's condition makes us uncomfortable, we say that THEY are suffering so that we can feel less guilty about moving on. JMHO...

[pollywog]

when a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on.

Well let's see!! I have a autistic 25 year old that cannot survive on his own. He needs us to help feed him, clothe him, protect him from danger!!! Will HE BE NEXT??? I TELL YOU THIS IS ONE SCARY STATEMENT. LIFE IF VALUABLE at EVERY LEVEL!!! YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!!!!!!!!

[FITZ]

If you need food and water to live, then you're no better than Terri. She's not terminally ill, she survives quite well without any extraordinary care. Unless you've decided that anyone not quite up to "standards" needs to be starved to death or maybe put into a gas chamber.

[TigersEye]

When a person can no longer survive on their own it is time to move on.

Do you mean like Stephen Hawking, Ronald Reagan, Christopher Reeve, Helen Keller ...?