Posted on 10/25/2003 12:35:25 AM PDT by kattracks
Now here's a real political shocker for you. Joseph Wilson, the former diplomat who threw a hissy-fit when his CIA-employed wife was outed in a Robert Novak column, has officially endorsed Sen. John Kerry for president.Oh, stop the presses!
Wilson was beamed into New Hampshire via a conference call Thursday to make the endorsement official. He'll put in a personal appearance there next month. It had already been revealed that Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame, had contributed to the Kerry campaign.
Wilson also acknowledged that he has been advising Kerry on foreign policy for about five months. Yes, that would put it before Wilson started criticizing President Bush for the line in his State of the Union message about Iraq seeking uranium from Niger for use in Saddam Hussein's nuclear program. (Wilson was the one sent to Niger by the CIA to investigate the charge, but insists he found no evidence of same.)
And, of course, it was before he so very bravely came to the defense of his wife and rashly accused Bush adviser Karl Rove of being the source of the leak. Wilson later retracted the charge, but now that he's an official member of the Kerry team he's not so sure. So he used the occasion of his endorsement of Kerry to impugn the integrity of both Rove and Attorney General John Ashcroft, whose Justice Department is probing the leak of Plame's name.
``The reports that somehow the attorney general, who is very, very close to Mr. Rove, both personally and professionally, is getting daily updates on the status of the investigation strikes me as the potential for at a minimum the appearance of a conflict of interest,'' he said.
Whoever leaked Plame's name should be ousted on the grounds of sheer stupidity alone.
But clearly Wilson has his agenda, has had it for quite some time and all of his righteous indignation ought to be considered accordingly.
He actually confirmed Bush's charge, that Iraq "sought" uranium, but you would not know that to listen to him squeal. Iraq's trade mission to Niger was public information. It doesn't even rely on British intel, its public. No one disputes it. And according to Wilson, according to Tenet, the Iraqis followed that mission with further efforts.
He also claimed that the transaction couldn't take place because the mines are under IAEA inspection. But IAEA says they don't have the personnel to monitor them, and they don't have the legal authority to monitor them. Meaning, they aren't being effectively monitored by IAEA.
Wilson is a liar, and not a very good one. His histrionics only work because no one from the press puts him under any close scrutiny. Before giving him any further credibility, someone should ask him how you investigate uranium sales without auditing company records, interviewing plant personnel, following the trucks to see where they go, staking out the port to see which ships they load in to, and verifying where those ships actually go. How do you do that in a one-week visit in which you never left the capital.
And the CIA should have to answer why they would send someone like this to do a non-investigation. Do they have no assets in Niger devoted to doing this work? Do they have no people on the ground in a West African country that has attracted Al Qaeda interest as a potential refuge, Libyan interest, and is a uranium producer? Is that why the closest thing to a Niger expert they can find is a guy who was there 20 years ago?
I would like to hear some discussion of this apparent admission on their part that we are terribly exposed in that part of the world.
This backs up you and I's suspicion that the real scandal lies in who was behind the decision to send Joe Wilson to Niger to begin with and if his wife's job was so secretive, why would they send a totally unqualified person on a mission concerning something as serious as the proliferation of Nuclear material?
These questions must be asked and considering that Joe Wilson is just looking out for what's best, he should have no problem being placed under oathe and testify on everything he knows? My guess is he will take the 5th if that day ever comes, because when all is said and done we will find out that him and his wife are involved in a political smear campaign that could end up puting a few people in jail
I had zero trouble explaining this to two gals who work in the nail salon. They were properly curious and outraged about the thing.
I will tell you what else I think. I bet you Wilson and his wife were under internal investigation by the CIA and he went public to keep himself out of jail. I think he figured if he made enough noise, no one would touch him because of looking like it was politically motivated. It is rather like why I think Janet Reno ran for governor of Florida. She had to know that she had zero chance, but as long as she was a candidate no one was going to indict her.
Yup, that makes Kerry a .......
I think he grasped the connections between Wilson and the democrats early, and started looking around to see where Wilson had been.
I noticed that about the expansion of the investigation. My fervent hope is that a lot of embedded Rats are caught in a trap of their own making.
Talking about "connecting the dots", let's not forget the Saudi connection to Wilson.
As Mark Stein pointed out, there are a LOT of people in our government (Wilson, for instance) on the Saudi payroll (See excerpt of his article below). It isn't much of a stretch to figure that people like Sheldon Drobny, co-founder of anshellmedia.com , the new "liberal" radio network, and his like-minded friends running this web site, "makethemaccountable.com", are being pay-rolled by them, too.
Mark Steyn: With friends like the Saudis . . .
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | October 19 2003 | Mark Steyn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003888/posts
Excerpt:
....That would also include the pro-Saudi Middle East Institute, whose "adjunct scholar" is one Joseph C. Wilson IV.
Remember him? He's the fellow at the center of the Bob-Novak-published-the-name-of-my-CIA-wife scandal.
The agency sent him to look into the European intelligence stories about Saddam Hussein trying to buy uranium in Africa. He went to Niger, drank mint tea with government flacks, and then wrote a big whiny piece in the New York Times after the White House declined to accept his assurances there was nothing going on.
He was never an intelligence specialist, he's no longer a "career diplomat," but he is, like so many other retired ambassadors, on the House of Saud's payroll.
And the Saudis were vehemently opposed to war with Saddam.
Think about that. To investigate Saddam's attempted acquisition of uranium, the United States government sent a man in the pay of the Saudi government.
The Saudis set up schools that turn out terrorists.
They set up Islamic lobby groups that put spies in our military bases and terror recruiters in our prisons.
They set up think tanks that buy up and neuter the U.S. diplomatic corps.
And their ambassador's wife funnels charitable donations to the 9/11 hijackers.
HA! What a liar!
A bump for a review of the Kerry connection to the Joe Wilson lie. Note my old post near the bottom of the thread.
The Kerry campaign was behind the "Bush Lied" story. Did you forget this article?
Here's the article. The whole story was a fabrication of the Kerry campaign.
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It was a lot of long days and short nights. Nothing can really prepare you for a presidential campaign. It's an incredible environment," Lehane said.
Among political insiders, there is speculation that Lehane was responsible for leaking a 27-year-old drunk driving charge against President Bush toward the end of the campaign.
Because the Bush charge was brought in Kennebunkport, Maine -- Lehane's home state -- the leak was connected to him.
He denies being the culprit.
Do you remember this article? We know that John Kerry was behind the Joe Wilson lie. Kerry needs to be held responsible.
There are lots of wrinkled old men and women in the press who long since forgave Teddy Kennedy his Kopeckne and more recently, Bill Clinton his Broderick and others, just because their paid vacations on and near Martha's Vineyard were so precious to them, as were the seminars at Harvard and the Kennedy school, presided over by some pompous left wing feel good guru. The media in America grew soft, just like the rest of America did, after WWII. The media demanded and got worship equal to any diety in past centuries. The New Deal was their coming out party, and they ignored and still do, the raw deals and bad deals imposed on us by the liberals.
Thank God, and not Democrats, there have been just enough level headed citizens to correct course from time to time. That has caused the power mongers to resort to trickery and lies, while they have accused the current administration of what? Lies, lying, dishonesty, etc. Just look at the book titles spawned by the left.
Forgive me my rant.
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Thanks for resurrecting this great (as usually is the case !!,)kattracks thread Eva !!
Thanks!
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BTTT!!
Thanks for the bump, I've been trying to attract some attention to this article all week-end.
The google cache is also gone and there is no record of it on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.
The Democrats are quite skilled at erasing history.
Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?
It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.
Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:
He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.
Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.
Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.
I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.
However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)
Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?
It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.
Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:
He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.
Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.
Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.
I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.
However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)
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I sure hope Limbaugh and the rest see this thread.
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