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Thank you for what may be the very first coherent post on this whole topic - this out of 10,000 threads on FR concerning Terri.

I've been growing weary of the many who jumped on this bandwagon due to no more than what appears to be their disapproval of MS taking a mistress (yes it's wrong, but it's really none of our business).

And, although I agree that his motives may be suspect, nothing's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There's a lot of conjecture and speculation, as well as much good info. There's also a lot of bunk, i.e., doctors quoted who are "new age types" at best, and winners of bandwidth on quackwatch.com at worst. There's also a lot of people "casting stones", which is also a real shame. As proud as I am of FR, sometimes I'm embarrased by the self-righteous/holier-than-thou spewing of many folks here. We're all simply human, folks, and people who don't agree 100 percent with you aren't necessarily the enemy, or minions of Satan, or (insert your knee-jerk reaction here).

Bottom line for me can be boiled down to 2 points:

1: I wouldn't want to live like this, no matter how bad some members of my family wanted to hang on. People, get your affairs in order so that you never even have to worry about your last days becoming a circus like this.

2: Nothing presented in this case is incontrovertable; hence my long-standing position that we should butt out. None of us were an intimate part of this relationship, and for every point in favor of criminal action, prognosis for recovery, etc, there is a point on the other side as well.

And, although I agree that his motives may be suspect, nothing's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt...

...including, certainly, the notion that Terri indicated a clear and unambiguous wish to be fatally dehydrated if she were ever in this situation.

Sorry, but I find the notion that a guardian can get the state's blessing to kill an incapacitated ward merely by claiming the ward expressed a desire not to live is extremely frightening.

Nothing presented in this case is incontrovertable; hence my long-standing position that we should butt out.

If someone's grandparents point out ways in which their granddaughter's life is put at risk by her parents, I would want a full investigation, even if the girl's father says, "I am not abusing my child."

I would not want to rely on a visually handicapped, obstinate, and dismissive judge's decisions or on the non-decisions of other judges who don't want to get involved, and who say, "Let George do it."

Call me nosy, if you must, it won't hurt my feelings.

Bottom line for me can be boiled down to 2 points:

1: I wouldn't want to live like this, This is about Terri Schiavo not you. If 'I,I,I' and 'me, me, me' are what it's all about for you you might want to start a vanity thread like this.

2: Nothing presented in this case is incontrovertable; If M. Schiavo, Greer and Felos succeed then Terri's death by starvation/dehydration will be incontrovertable. hence my long-standing position that we should butt out. None of us were an intimate part of this relationship, That's nice. IMNHO all Americans have an intimate relationship woven together by The Declaration of Independence ie something, something, something about 'endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness' yada, yada, yada. and for every point in favor of criminal action, prognosis for recovery, etc, there is a point on the other side as well. These 10,000 threads are an excellent place to bring up those points and examine them one by one rather than casually elude to their existence in passing.