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California: Gray Davis dithers again, this time at the risk of human life
Roger Hedgecock Show, San Diego, KOGO AM600 | October 27, 2003 | John Jorsett (me)

Posted on 10/27/2003 4:39:24 PM PST by John Jorsett

I just listened to an interview Roger Hedgecock did with several politicians (Congressman Duncan Hunter, State Assemblyman Jay Lasuer, perhaps others). Early Sunday, those fighting the fires were screaming for aerial tankers, but weren't getting any action. Tankers were available, but the person responsible for authorizing their use was refusing, saying the "weren't needed" or that they couldn't fly because of wind (at a time when new helicopters were everywhere, showing video of the fires). Hunter said he made repeated calls and faxes to Davis' office trying to get the governor to order the guy to act. None of those calls or faxes was answered. Finally, now, 36 hours later, it's just starting to happen. Once again Davis live up to his reputation for dithering while the state -- literally, as it turns out -- burns.

One of the problems cited was the federal Economy Act, which says the state must pay other agencies (like the DoD) if it uses their resources. Trouble is, if the state calls in the DoD for assistance, it pays them big money, and there are a bunch of private contractors with fire-fighting equipment who then scream that the state ought to be using that money to pay for their help. Their pressure on state and federal bureaucrats creates a tendency for the state to delay asking the feds for help. It's also apparent that the private contractors have a perverse incentive to have things be as bad as possible, since that's how they make more money. If this is causing road blocks to rapid deployment of resources, then it's time we called for reforms to this system before the next big fires.

Davis is going to be on the show at 5:30 for five minutes, according to Roger.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: catrans

1 posted on 10/27/2003 4:39:24 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Update: Davis will be on at 5:25pm.
2 posted on 10/27/2003 4:50:44 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
You issue a letter contract to get things moving and negotiate it out at your and their leisure.
3 posted on 10/27/2003 4:51:17 PM PST by Whispering Smith
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To: John Jorsett
Davis waited five days to declare an emergency, then all he was concerned about was getting federal funds for counseling those who lost their homes - not putting out the fires.

I saw him on Fox tonight and he blamed the whole thing on Bush. "I sent him those emergency declarations days ago and he just now got around to signing them...." or something like that.

When the hell is he gone, anyway?

4 posted on 10/27/2003 4:57:19 PM PST by snopercod (I am waiting for the rebirth of wonder.)
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To: John Jorsett
As difficult as it might seem to believe, and as much as this comment will paint me as some sort of whacko-ultra-rightwing-extremist nut.....oh, what the heck:

Davis let Southern California burn, and in particular, San Diego, because Southern California burned him in the recall election.

San Diego County was "RecallDavisCentral", and he hasn't forgotten.

Impossible?! Davis is nothing if not petty and vain. In the Clintonian tradition, he rewards his friends and punishes his enemies. A guy who'd demand payment (campaign contribution) from college students to interview him, who'd unleash the hounds-of-hell on any political enemy, would have no problem sitting on his hands with the fine Democrat look of smug satisfaction.

As the old saying goes, if you dethrone a King, you'd better make certain you do so with certainty. This King's still on the throne, and his enemies will feel his wrath.

SFS

5 posted on 10/27/2003 5:00:41 PM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone (F)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
A strong possibility. Unfortunately.
6 posted on 10/27/2003 5:16:23 PM PST by Whispering Smith
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To: snopercod
I was wondering how Paul Krugman was going to manage to blame the fires on Bush (as he will surely do), but I guess Davis has provided the answer.
7 posted on 10/27/2003 5:21:55 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: John Jorsett
(Congressman Duncan Hunter, State Assemblyman Jay Lasuer, perhaps others).

State Senator Dennis Hollingsworth

8 posted on 10/27/2003 5:24:01 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: John Jorsett
Davis is acting exactly according to published Sierra Club policy.
9 posted on 10/27/2003 5:29:02 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
This situation is bad for Ahnold-an even bigger mess to clean up. Here's a Tin Foil Hat speculation about these mostly arson started fires. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1009175/posts If you don't think Davis and company have a vengeful streak , take a look at the bills he signed right before the re-call. Also , anybody else think Davis appearing all over the TV, has the creepy look of "legacy building"?
10 posted on 10/27/2003 5:31:21 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA-Vote a democrat out of offic)
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To: John Jorsett
This post has been added to the… California In Transition- Must read Threads!

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11 posted on 10/27/2003 5:40:06 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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To: John Jorsett
UNION-TRIBUNE and SIGNONSANDIEGO

1:05 p.m. October 27, 2003

Republican politicians charged the Democratic Davis administration today with failing to move quickly enough to send in military assets to help fight the numerous blazes raging in the area.

The allegation brought a sharp retort from the governor's press secretary, Steve Maviglio, who called the grousing "the worst kind of political maneuvering" and said the critics are "not helping put one fire out."

Republican Assemblyman Jay La Suer of La Mesa, County Supervisor Dianne Jacob, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-El Cajon and several other East County Republicans gathered at La Suer's La Mesa offices to call for the state to quickly approve a request to bring in a military firefighting unit from Colorado Springs.

Hunter said Gen. Richard Myers, the Joint Chiefs chairman, offered use of the Colorado Springs-based Military Aerial Firefighting wing to assist in combating fires, but that the required request from the governor's office for that help has not been made. Another, similar unit at Point Mugu, has already been released to help fight the fires.

"This (Colorado Springs) help has been available since yesterday, around noon,'' said Wendell Cutting, Hunter's chief of staff. Cutting called the California Governor's Office the "epitome of a beauracracy.'' Gov. Gray Davis, speaking to reporters in Santa Monica before leaving for San Diego, said he had called the president's chief of staff last night to impress upon him the need to sign a presidential disaster declaration as soon as possible. Davis said he has asked Gov. Kenny Guinn of Nevada and Janet Napolitano of Arizona to provide 50 fire engines each, most of which will be deployed in San Diego County, where "most of the deaths have occurred.''

Davis said every state agency is involved in helping with the fire-related problems, from the National Guard (helicopters, cots) to the CHP (12-hour shifts, helping with evacuations), mental health (for those who lost homes), Caltrans (moving cars, trucks and livestock).

Davis said what he really wants to see is the federal government set up one-stop "shops'' like those established after the Northridge earthquake in 1994, where local, state and federal aid was available under one roof, "`making it as easy as possible for the victims of this disaster.''

He said he was briefing Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger on an hourly basis. He said Schwarzenegger will be going to Washington, D.C. tomorrow to ask for federal assistance.

Davis said putting the fires out is the state's top priority, then helping people put their lives back in order.

(snip)

12 posted on 10/27/2003 5:40:52 PM PST by slimer ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
I agree .. and I also believe that FOUR (4) STRIKES the week following the election is a bit much .. seeing as how the UNIONS SUPPORTED DAVIS.
13 posted on 10/27/2003 5:44:09 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
"I agree...and I also beleive the FOUR (4) STRIKES the week following the election is a bit much"

Yeh, me too. It's not like the 'Rats haven't done this before. Remember the Long Shoreman strike right after President Bush's election ? All the ships sat out in the harbor in Los Angeles/San Diego for days. It threatend our entire ecconomy. I guess they backed down when people found out they make more money than a doctor does- to unload ships (over $100,000).

Back then I thought the left did this to"punish" the people for NOT VOTING FOR THEM, and that's what I think now (about the Grocery/Transpo Strikes).

If there is any truth here- EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE! How dare they think they can get away with this.

14 posted on 10/27/2003 6:15:29 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA-Vote a democrat out of offic)
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To: fly_so_free
Well .. Duncan Hunter .. who is my rep in the House .. has been all over FOX all but calling Davis names and saying it took Davis 36 hours to answer Duncan's phone calls.

Davis denied it (when he was interviewed in SD), but Duncan repeated the charge on FOX and said that Duncan's own staff person can verify the calls were never returned.

This partisanship is overplaying their hand. I keep saying this - not because I want the dems to get it - but because I want people to see how pathetically POWER HUNGRY THE DEMS ARE.
15 posted on 10/27/2003 6:45:32 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: John Jorsett
House Rep for east county, Dianne Jacobs, just agreed with Duncan Hunter that Davis refused giving SD the resources it needed to fight the fires. All Davis had to so was make a phone call, and he DID NOT MAKE THE CALL.

She maintained that Davis didn't make the call because it was just another example of why he got recalled - lack of leadership.
16 posted on 10/27/2003 8:01:13 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
had to so = had to do

Sheeeeeesh!!
17 posted on 10/27/2003 8:07:48 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: John Jorsett
It was very clear by Saturday night that Southern California was in for a world of hurt. Santa Anas kicked up with major fires already burning. That was a first I believe. Davis was in San Bernadino Friday talking to fireman and making jokes. For example, 'Well at least you (fireman) dont have to worry about being recalled'. Obviouslly Davis had no clue as to how serious a situation we were in. He was cracking jokes the day before Waterman Canyon burned.
18 posted on 10/28/2003 2:50:12 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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