.45-70 Big Power At Close Range

Shooting Times ^ | May 1997 | Rcik Jamison

[PoorMuttly]

Naw..MuttlySuperComputer must be far too intelligent to do simple pictures. Plan on getting a new one...having all sorts of wacky problems in here. Even HTML commands haven't worked for a long time...why I never underline, italic...etc. Oh well. Some day, perhaps soon. I'll use this tower for something else. It was a friend's, who perished in the Towers, and I will always use it, for something.

Anyway...last night, after failing with Bert's mug-shot, I tried Mother Teresa, then Barney the dinosaur. I will get another machine, perhaps my XP one, or a new one.

Tanks for the tips, bud.

[Shooter 2.5]

Anytime. Just keep watching that bang list. The CCW vote for Wisconsin is going to be Wednesday. You can watch the dems implode in person when we put up a live feed. It's very amusing.

[PoorMuttly]

This is all great advice. It'll help.

That vote should be exciting (like I need more), and our Forum will once again prove to be a great facilitator of American freedom, and empowerment.

[Shooter 2.5]

I think I know what the problem is. The pictures that you right click have to be on the internet in the first place. Try it with some of the pictures that are on this thread first. It can be any image on the internet. Preview first.

I don't think it's your computer. Sorry about your friend.

[PoorMuttly]

They were pictures from other sites, and made it into my email, most times. Don't know what gives, but need a better Internet machine anyway, so I'll switch one of my other, work units, and get a better machine for that. Will do soon.

Yes, I rarely talk about him, and some other choice favors from our friends from overseas...but that sure doesn't ever prevent me from trying to DO something about it ! It feels like I am doing something for him, and them, by Posting here, on this computer. They call themselves "terrorists," but that just doesn't work on us. We only get clear, and focused...and dig 'em out, and bring 'em to justice, dead or alive..sometimes their choice, sometimes not...but we do NOT get "terrorized." Freedom has added a deep peace and depth to us these fools don't comprehend, or expect. We can be surprised, shocked, and concerned...then we dig in our heels and hit back with absolute finality. Muttly's Big Adventure...continues.

A-OK though. Others I know...the living, suffered MUCH worse than I, and that's for SURE. I just witnessed a bit, and knew some families who got ...well, you know.

Anyway...we do what we can, try to do better as people, and NEVER give up, or forget a speck. I have some people I live, say, on behalf of, to some degree. I cannot let go, and if I could, I woudn't. Sobering, isn't it. Part of the "poor" in Muttly (but mostly a shameless play for undeserved sympathy...and hopefully food!).

[Shooter 2.5]

I'd like to see you succeed with it because if I can do it, anyone can.

Just keep thinking about your friend and he'll live forever.

Take care.

[PoorMuttly]

Likewise, brother...and the same for everyone who posts here, and is fighting the Good fight, wherever they are.

On we go.

[MainelyHunting]

I have just order my first 45/70 Marlin 1985. I too enjoy the use of iron sites at times. What I'v decided to do is mount my scope the same way I've had it on my Marlin 30-30 for years. I bought a scope mount from Kwik Site (the KS-336). This allows me a choice while hunting, I too once had a big buck at close distances get away due to snow on the scope.

[45Auto]

While I prefer iron sights on these heavy recoil cartridges/rifles, my eyes have changed enough so that unless the rear sight is hooded, I cannot focus on the front sight. These days, I like to use low power scopes, like the Weaver 1 x 3. Scopes like that have a long enough eye relief so I don't have to worry about the dreaded "scope-hit eyebrow". For pistol shooting I wear bifocal shooting glasses with a 1+ window; while the target is blurry, (that's as it should be anyway, if one's technique is correct) the front sight is in sharp focus. Since using these minor vision correcting glasses, my pistol shooting has actually improved.

[yarddog]

The most accurate .22 I have ever owned (well maybe one of around three) was a Remington model 580 single shot I bought while in college.

I glass bedded the action and barrel. It was the first one I ever did and got the acraglass all over everything plus the release agent didn't work and I basically had a permanently bonded action and stock.

I sawed the barrel off to 20 inches with a hack saw. I crowned it with a drill bit.

It was really really ugly, but after around 100 shots it began to just flat out shoot.

It would usually put 5 or 6 Winchester Super X (for some reason, it preferred them over Remington ammo) into one slightly enlarged hole at 50 yards.

[philetus]

Makes my shoulder hurt just thinking about it."

I never thought the kick from the 45-70 was that bad.

[yarddog]

I had a 45-70 made on a Siamese Mauser action. The gunsmith used an E.R. Shaw barrel.

I made the mistake of trying to get by on the cheap and used the original stock. It kicked fiercely. I am almost certain the stock was the problem.

It was fairly small in the butt section and had a steel butplate. It probably would have been ok with a new stock.

[Blue Collar Christian]

I never thought the kick from the 45-70 was that bad.

I'm gonna make you fire my Marlin with hot loads on monday so you can take that back.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

http://www.researchpress.co.uk/targets/sandyhook.htm

.45/70 at two miles 1879 tests

[MarkL]

Ouch - nothing like a case of "scope eye" to ruin a day at the range. My old Horanady reloading manual has data for the .460 Weatherby cartridge. They mentioned that the only way they could shoot the test rifle enough to develop the load data was to drape a bag full of lead shot over the shooter's shoulder to absorb the worst of the impact. Even then, they said the recoil was tremendous.

My guess though, is that it's a whole lot less damaging than that inflicted by a charging elephant or cape buffalo!

Mark

[MarkL]

I think the most I could handle, if I ever went on an Alaskan dream hunt for Grizzly, would be the BAR in .338. I'd get it Mag-na-Ported, then it would be sweet. Of course, I'd want an experienced guide backing me up with something nasty and reliable, like the .458 or .416 in a Mauser-style bolt rifle, in case the semi-auto decided to malfunction. I guess a lot of us must fantasize about a hunt like that, or going to Africa for the Big 5. Oh well.......maybe some day, before the old bones get too old...

Something to look into is one of those recoil reducers (I think that they contain mercury, so they're a bit heavy and very expensive). They're really VERY effective.

I used to shoot bowling pin competition, and one guy had a Remington 1100 fitted with one in the stock, as well as being ported. It felt like shooting a very loud .22 rifle! There was almost no felt recoil at all. Now, I realize that the recoil of a 12ga with hot loads of #4 buckshot isn't anywhere near as bad as what you'd get with a big magnum, bit it might be worth a look.

BTW, the guy who owned the shotgun was able to consitantly knock 5 pins off the table in less than 3 seconds (and that includes bringing the weapon up and the last of the 5 pins hitting the ground!)

Mark

[Myrddin]

I shoot 45-70 in a Marlin 1895G and Magnum Research BFR 45-70 in 10 inch barrel.

The Marlin 1895G is rated for 40,000 CUP. The BFR is rated at 31,000 PSI. Marlin is so "goosey" about reloaded ammo that they declare your warranty void if you use it. The Ruger #1 will suck up a 50,000 CUP load in 45-70. Choose your ammo carefully to avoid a possibly fatal mistake.

[45Auto]

From the FR archives:

Sandy Hook

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Thanks, much more info than the URL I posted.