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Posted on 10/30/2003 5:04:39 PM PST by Dales
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To: PatrickHenry; All
Good morning to everyone also. I am gone two days and when I get back? All I can say is holy cow!
To: RadioAstronomer
All I can say is holy cow! You're a Hindu?
To: PatrickHenry
You're a Hindu?Not the last time I looked! :-)
p.s. I could pass for Jewish! (LOL silly joke)
To: ThinkPlease
Are you ready for some football? placemarker.
544
posted on
11/02/2003 8:04:24 AM PST
by
ThinkPlease
(Fortune Favors the Bold!)
To: ThinkPlease
Good morning :-)
To: bondserv
"Maybe you will believe Paul?
1 Cor 15:45 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
No evolving there. Notice the word first. Yes first. The first living soul of man. It gives no detail regarding how the flesh that soul was associated with came about.
"1 Tim 2:13 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
Again, formed not evolved.
Formation does not exclude evolution.
" Maybe you will believe Jude.
"Jude 1:14 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying,...
Would that be the seventh evolved species from the mythical Adam species?
Enoch came after Adam and is the same species.
"Let's try Luke.
Luke 3:38 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. THe significance of this is?
"The Old testament maybe?
1 Chron 1:1-4 1 Adam, Sheth, Enosh, 2 Kenan, Mahalaleel, Jered, 3 Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech, 4 Noah,
Nope, the father of Sheth, not an evolutionary organism."
Again, same species.
"Now to the Bio of Adam, the mystical Genesis.
Gen 5:5 5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
The myth of the first man Adam died at 930 years old.
No man lived 930 years on this Earth.
" Now to the question of the mythical Adam's progeny and their intermarrying. He had other sons and daughters. Thats where all those grandkids came from.
Gen 5:4
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
The ages given here mean something else, they do not mean the flesh of the person actually lived that long.
To: ThinkPlease
Are you ready for some football?BTW, I am not really into football. I think it's a bit tame for me. However, did anyone else catch the that fabulous knitting contest on channel 1024 last night? It sure kept me on the edge of my seat towards the end!
To: bondserv
Bondserv, evil existed long before evolution. Spartans killed their "defective" babies.
"Democracies fall when the electorate find out they can vote themselves the treasury." We have held out a little longer because we are a Republic rather than a Democracy and our representatives are more aware of the Wizard's First Rule (I know you like the SoT books :o) ).
We need to reverse the popular election of Senators and that will make us slow down a little more as well. And, above all, we have to reduce government.
We'll just need to agree to disagree...
548
posted on
11/02/2003 8:28:06 AM PST
by
Nataku X
(Praise the Lord! May Terri recover from her starvation ordeal; may her parents become her guardians.)
To: RadioAstronomer
Knitting? Bah. You might as well be watching baseball. :-).
Now, curling, that's a sport a guy can relate to!
Ever seen one of them curling stadiums they have in Canada? Now that's scary.
549
posted on
11/02/2003 8:41:09 AM PST
by
ThinkPlease
(Fortune Favors the Bold!)
To: RadioAstronomer
My contention is that if there were a large body of Biblically Literate Christians in Europe, there would not be a socialistic government there. There is a clear correlation between believing in a Sovereign Creator and the right to universal freedom.
Thankfully JR must admit that my perspective on these Science threads is in line with his agenda of holding back the Elitism that is a result of power run amok.
The first representation of freedom on this planet was brought about by people who took the Holy Bible seriously regarding our rights deriving from an All Powerful God. No man has the right to revoke rights that are outside of their realm of sovereignty.
A belief in the Theory of Evolution shatters all of these constructs. No one who has study the Bible to the point that they are literate in both the Old and New Testaments can say that the Bible leaves room for the Theory of Evolution to be true.
Those claiming theistic evolution are ignorant of what the Bible says. Or they have chosen to believe that many passages of the Bible are not true. In my opinion these leave them on very shaky ground in their ability to witness regarding the need for Jesus to Die on the Cross to conquer the death that was brought on by sin. Evolution is a theory of death going back billions of years. The Bible teaches death began with a CHOICE by a Free-Will agent created by God.
The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ atoned for that Choice of disobedience by Adam. His death was a ransom for sin and its punishment "the wages of sin is death", and His resurrection returns entry into our eternal destiny in heaven with God when we shed this mortal tent as He did on the Cross.
550
posted on
11/02/2003 8:41:42 AM PST
by
bondserv
(Alignment is critical.)
To: ThinkPlease
Ever seen one of them curling stadiums they have in Canada? Now that's scary.ROTFLMAO! :-) Not sure which would be more boring for me. Knitting or curling! LOL!
To: RadioAstronomer
Curling's pretty boring but the clean and jerk can be fun.
To: bondserv
My contention is that if there were a large body of Biblically Literate Christians in Europe, there would not be a socialistic government there. There is a clear correlation between believing in a Sovereign Creator and the right to universal freedom. There is also a clear correlation to the oppression and loss of freedom of a society by a theistic form of government. Belief does not necessarily foster good government. Take a look at the Middle Ages as an example.
Thankfully JR must admit that my perspective on these Science threads is in line with his agenda of holding back the Elitism that is a result of power run amok.
I did not follow you argument here.
The first representation of freedom on this planet was brought about by people who took the Holy Bible seriously regarding our rights deriving from an All Powerful God. No man has the right to revoke rights that are outside of their realm of sovereignty.
Not true. Ancient Greeks wrote about freedom and democracy long before Christianity.
A belief in the Theory of Evolution shatters all of these constructs. No one who has study the Bible to the point that they are literate in both the Old and New Testaments can say that the Bible leaves room for the Theory of Evolution to be true.
How does a belief in evolution shatter the concepts of our constitution? I agree with your second sentence. If you take the bible as a scientific document, it most certainly does not agree with the modern theories of the age and workings of the universe.
Those claiming theistic evolution are ignorant of what the Bible says. Or they have chosen to believe that many passages of the Bible are not true. In my opinion these leave them on very shaky ground in their ability to witness regarding the need for Jesus to Die on the Cross to conquer the death that was brought on by sin. Evolution is a theory of death going back billions of years. The Bible teaches death began with a CHOICE by a Free-Will agent created by God.
I do not claim theistic evolution.
The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ atoned for that Choice of disobedience by Adam. His death was a ransom for sin and its punishment "the wages of sin is death", and His resurrection returns entry into our eternal destiny in heaven with God when we shed this mortal tent as He did on the Cross.
IMHO, the Bible itself undertakes an evolution from beginning to end as the people's understanding of the world around them changed.
To: VadeRetro
ROFL! :-)
To: PatrickHenry
multi-spectral, approved-for-delicate-sensibilities placemarker
To: longshadow
low bandwidth placemarker
556
posted on
11/02/2003 9:27:29 AM PST
by
balrog666
(Humor is a universal language.)
To: longshadow
"Can't we all get along?" placemarker
To: PatrickHenry
Peace at last placemarker
558
posted on
11/02/2003 9:45:09 AM PST
by
Ogmios
(Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
To: Ogmios
God - science - man never basically changes ...
just calling - believing maturation - technological progress - cultural growth --- evolution ...
shows how this disease has twisted ... cannibalized --- destroyed your mind !
You've been completly brain washed - indoctrinated - social engineered by a liberal satanic conspiracy to think - see like this !
A mental - spiritual aids ... mad science sickness !
Peel back every layer of evil and the core of this monster is evolution ... mind split - shifting --- psychosis !
If you really want to get down to the slime bottom of liberalism ... abortion -
sexual promiscuity - aclu intolerant political bigotry --- it's all a step
after step up from evolution !
This is brave new world order and conservatism on the FR ... is being hi jacked by this
psuedo intellectual - PC nazis (( non pluralists - anti democratic -
monopolists )) --- atheists - new agers !
Aren't these liberal republicans really ... anti conservatives --- moles -
sleepers - plants - satam spawn - spores !
559
posted on
11/02/2003 10:03:08 AM PST
by
f.Christian
(evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
To: Physicist; Jim Robinson
"......In the scientific circles in which I travel, the presence of creationists among the conservative movement is the single most effective intellectual bludgeon against conservatism. It's a license to scoff......" I second these sentiments.
As expounded upon by David Frum a few years back in DEAD RIGHT, there are different camps in Conservativism, reflecting the different aspects and facets of the philosophy. Unfortunately, even here at Mr. Jefferson's University (Mr. Libertine, Mr. European Enlightenment, Mr. Proto-Libertarian to the rest of you) the very mention of Conservatism to 96.68% of the people I come into contact with immediately brings up the 'scoffing' arguement invoking inbred, toothless, christian snakehandlers, livin'-in-the-holler..........and THATS just from the Americans!
560
posted on
11/02/2003 10:09:47 AM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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