Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Justice O'Connor: U.S. must rely on foreign law
WND ^

Posted on 10/31/2003 9:32:28 AM PST by stop_fascism

American courts need to pay more attention to international legal decisions to help create a more favorable impression abroad, said U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor at an awards dinner in Atlanta.

Sandra Day O'Connor

"The impressions we create in this world are important, and they can leave their mark," O'Connor said, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

The 73-year-old justice and some of her high court colleagues have made similar appeals to foreign law, not only in speeches and interviews, but in some of their legal opinions. Her most recent public remarks came at a dinner Tuesday sponsored by the Atlanta-based Southern Center for International Studies.

The occasion was the center's presentation to her of its World Justice Award.

O'Connor told the audience, according to the Atlanta paper, the U.S. judicial system generally gives a favorable impression worldwide, "but when it comes to the impression created by the treatment of foreign and international law and the United States court, the jury is still out."

She cited two recent Supreme Court cases that illustrate the increased willingness of U.S. courts to take international law into account in its decisions.

In 2002, she said, the high court regarded world opinion when it ruled executing the mentally retarded to be unconstitutional.

American diplomats, O'Connor added, filed a court brief in that case about the difficulties their foreign missions faced because of U.S. death penalty practices.

More recently, the Supreme Court relied partly on European Court decisions in its decision to overturn the Texas anti-sodomy law.

"I suspect," O'Connor said, according to the Atlanta daily, "that over time we will rely increasingly, or take notice at least increasingly, on international and foreign courts in examining domestic issues."

Doing so, she added, "may not only enrich our own country's decisions, I think it may create that all important good impression."

In July, O'Connor made a rare television news show appearance with Supreme Court Justice Stephen G. Breyer in which they were asked whether the U.S. Constitution, the oldest governing document in use in the world today, will continue to be relevant in an age of globalism.

Speaking with ABC News' "This Week" host George Stephanopoulos, Breyer took issue with Justice Antonin Scalia, who, in a dissent in the Texas sodomy ruling, contended the views of foreign jurists are irrelevant under the U.S. Constitution.

Breyer had held that a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights that homosexuals had a fundamental right to privacy in their sexual behavior showed the Supreme Court's earlier decision to the contrary was unfounded in the Western tradition.

"We see all the time, Justice O'Connor and I, and the others, how the world really – it's trite but it's true – is growing together," Breyer said. "Through commerce, through globalization, through the spread of democratic institutions, through immigration to America, it's becoming more and more one world of many different kinds of people. And how they're going to live together across the world will be the challenge, and whether our Constitution and how it fits into the governing documents of other nations, I think will be a challenge for the next generations."

In his dissent in the Texas case, Scalia said: "The court's discussion of these foreign views (ignoring, of course, the many countries that have retained criminal prohibitions on sodomy) is ... meaningless dicta. Dangerous dicta, however, since this court ... should not impose foreign moods, fads, or fashions on Americans," he said quoting the 2002 Foster v. Florida case.

Scalia's scathing critique of the 6-3 sodomy ruling was unusual in its bluntness.

"Today's opinion is the product of a court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct," he wrote. Later he concluded: "This court has taken sides in the culture war."

The current court is split between Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Clarence Thomas and Scalia, who tend to hold the traditional constitutionalist approach to rulings, and the majority of O'Connor, Breyer, Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginzburg, David H. Souter and John Paul Stevens, who tend to believe in the concept of a "living Constitution" subject to changes in public opinion and interpretation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: internationallaw; nowewont; oconnor; scotus; timetoretire; transjudicialism; usconstitution
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-84 next last
To: jmcclain19
O'Connor has had this view for a long time. She's a judicial activist and one-worlder who couldn't care less about the US Constitution or her oath to uphold it. Same story with 5 other justices.
21 posted on 10/31/2003 9:54:54 AM PST by Bonaparte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Atlanta Journal-Constitution

U.S. justice is honored
O'Connor says court has its ear to the world
The U.S. judiciary should pay more attention to international court decisions to help enrich our nation's standing abroad, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said Tuesday.

"The impressions we create in this world are important and they can leave their mark," O'Connor said.

On the whole, the U.S. judicial system leaves a favorable impression around the world, she said "but when it comes to the impression created by the treatment of foreign and international law and the United States court, the jury is still out."

The 73-year-old justice, considered by many to be the most influential member of the nation's highest court, made her remarks to a dinner sponsored by the Southern Center for International Studies.

O'Connor received the Atlanta center's World Justice Award at the dinner at the Marriott hotel in Buckhead.

Former Georgia Court of Appeals Judge Dorothy Toth Beasley presented O'Connor with the award.

For decades, O'Connor said, U.S. courts declined to consider international law when reaching important decisions.

But in recent years, she said, the U.S. Supreme Court began acknowledging the thoughts of the global community.

The first such case was decided in 2002 when the Supreme Court found it unconstitutional to execute the mentally retarded, she said. In arriving at that decision, O'Connor said, the high court noted that the world community overwhelmingly disapproved of the practice.

Also influential was a court brief filed by American diplomats who discussed the difficulties confronted in their foreign missions because of U.S. death penalty practices, she said.

The second ruling cited by O'Connor was, as she called it, "the famous or perhaps infamous case," in which the Supreme Court overturned the Texas anti-sodomy law.

In that decision, the Supreme Court majority relied partly on a series of decisions by European courts on the same issue, O'Connor said.

"I suspect," O'Connor said, "that over time we will rely increasingly, or take notice at least increasingly, on international and foreign courts in examining domestic issues."

Doing so, she added, "may not only enrich our own country's decisions, I think it may create that all important good impression."


22 posted on 10/31/2003 9:55:40 AM PST by george wythe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
Impeach her. Now.
23 posted on 10/31/2003 9:57:26 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
Doing so, she added, 'may not only enrich our own country's decisions, I think it may create that all important good impression.'"

Hmm. And here I thought the Supreme Court was supposed to follow the U.S. Constitution. Silly me. Next, she'll start making decisions based on the U.N. Charter.

--Boris

24 posted on 10/31/2003 9:58:29 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justshutupandtakeit
Before jumping to the conclusion she should be drawn and quartered wouldn't it be appropriate to have her actual speech?,

I agree

And I am hoping it is a lot different what I just read

25 posted on 10/31/2003 10:00:56 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: BlessedBeGod
She has violated her oath of office. She is a danger to this country. I expect gun control will be next on her list. At best she is senile. Surely there must be some way to remove her.
26 posted on 10/31/2003 10:04:15 AM PST by Dante3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
In 2002, she said, the high court regarded world opinion when it ruled executing the mentally retarded to be unconstitutional.

Is there a world constitution? The only bearing world opinion has on our laws is through our values as a society. These can make it into law through our elected representatives. Yo! O'Connor! That's how it's done constitutionally!

How in the world do you rule something unconstitutional based on something extraconstitutional and keep a straight face?

Impeach... NOW!

27 posted on 10/31/2003 10:04:37 AM PST by pgyanke ("The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God" - C.S. Lewis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
I guess Sandra must be drinkning the potion too.
28 posted on 10/31/2003 10:05:35 AM PST by Wiggins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
"world opinion"

Decided, reported and edited by whom?

29 posted on 10/31/2003 10:07:57 AM PST by Shermy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
I think it may create that all important good impression.

The Martha Stewart of the Supreme Court?

She's gotta go... soon!

30 posted on 10/31/2003 10:12:08 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Frank_Discussion
This absolutely is a ground for impeachment. The oath she swore specifically says she will uphold the Constitution. The problem is, of course, now it's a 'living document', open to interpretation. NOT!
31 posted on 10/31/2003 10:14:12 AM PST by ysoitanly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Mo1
And I am hoping it is a lot different what I just read

I would really hope so.!

This statement is beyond the pale, if not taken out of context. It is really imperative that President Bush, and the Senate Republicans, get down in the trenches with the rat obstructionists, and win the battle over President Bush's nominee's!!

32 posted on 10/31/2003 10:14:45 AM PST by woodyinscc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: woodyinscc
It is really imperative that President Bush, and the Senate Republicans, get down in the trenches with the rat obstructionists, and win the battle over President Bush's nominee's!!

I agree

33 posted on 10/31/2003 10:22:28 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: ysoitanly
I think she should demonstrate her committment to internationalism by driving on the left side of the road.
34 posted on 10/31/2003 10:27:03 AM PST by talleyman (Treason is as treason does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Mo1
Hey, wait a minute.

Couldn't one argue that Ten Commandents are international laws as well? Moses didn't get them in Alabama, you know.
35 posted on 10/31/2003 10:29:34 AM PST by GeorgiaMike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
American courts need to pay more attention to international legal decisions to help create a more favorable impression abroad...

And we need to impeach a gaggle of NWO SCOTUS "justices!"

36 posted on 10/31/2003 10:31:35 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
Some of you sound as if you think by simply looking, for mere reference, at what a court in Europe has done, O'Connor is subjugating the U.S. Supreme Court to the precedents of the European courts. I sincerely hope you know better.

Listening to the views of others and gaining a perspective on both sides of an argument is what a good judge should do. Interested parties of all stripes, from the John Birchers to the ACLU, can file an amicus brief with the court. No one seems to have a problem with that.

I think there are a lot of people here reading WAY too much into this. The Supreme Court is well within its right to take into consideration any perspectives and opinions it might deem appropriate. In fact, it's quite prudent of them to do so.

37 posted on 10/31/2003 10:46:57 AM PST by tdadams
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
Who says O'Conner is a conservative? She's a fruitcake. Judges should not just ignore our own law and use foreign laws instead unless they want to be impeached.
38 posted on 10/31/2003 10:55:55 AM PST by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tdadams
How does world opinion effect the meaning of the constitution?

Good judges at the Supreme Court level should apply the constitution. Period.

I have a huge problem with amicus briefs by the ACLU. They have become legal brownshirts. They take a ridiculous opinion, then find a liberal judge to support it. Voila, legislation from the bench. Mix in a Supreme court that believes our laws should be based on European opinion, and you have a government based on liberal fads.

Now that with have the "right to buggery" is the right to bugger children far behind? (no pun intended).
39 posted on 10/31/2003 10:55:56 AM PST by stop_fascism
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: stop_fascism
How does world opinion effect the meaning of the constitution?

You say this as if our constitution isn't subject to any interpretation whatsoever. If that's the case, then what's the purpose of amicus briefs? Why are there two differing opinions presented in the court? Why is there a Supreme Court at all? If everything is so settled, so cut and dry, there should be no dispute and no use for a court.

Of course, that's silly and disingenuous. But no more so than the rhetoric of those inferring that O'Connor is subjugating the U.S. Constitution to European courts.

40 posted on 10/31/2003 11:32:17 AM PST by tdadams
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-84 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson