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Textbooks at center of evolution debate
Associated Press ^ | 10/31/03

Posted on 11/01/2003 4:14:09 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod

AUSTIN -- Texas will be under the microscope this week in the fight over teaching evolution in public schools as the State Board of Education votes on adopting biology textbooks that have been at the center of the debate.

The board meets Thursday and Friday and is set to consider proposed changes submitted by 11 publishers. The board's decisions -- which could determine which textbooks publishers offer to dozens of states -- will end a review process that has been marked by months of heated debate over the theory of evolution.

Religious activists and proponents of alternative science urged publishers to revise some of the 10th-grade books and want the board to reject others, saying they contain factual errors regarding the theory of evolution. Mainstream scientists assert that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is a cornerstone of modern research and technology.

Board members can only vote to reject books based on factual errors or failure to follow state curriculum as mandated by the Legislature.

"There's a bait and switch going on here because the critics want the textbooks to question whether evolution occurred. And of course they don't because scientists don't question whether evolution occurred," said Eugenie Scott, executive director of the California-based National Center for Science Education.

Among those questioning the textbooks are about 60 biologists from around the country who signed a "statement of dissent" about teaching evolution and said both sides of the issue should be taught. Several religious leaders also testified against teaching evolution.

Any changes to the textbooks will have implications across the country.

Texas is the nation's second largest buyer of textbooks, and books sold in the state are often marketed by publishers nationwide. Texas, California and Florida account for more than 30 percent of the nation's $4 billion public school book market. Three dozen publishers invest millions of dollars in Texas.

One of the most vocal advocates of changing the textbooks is the Discovery Institute, a nonprofit think tank based in Seattle. Institute officials have argued at board hearings that alternatives to commonly accepted theories of evolution should be included in textbooks to comply with a state requirement that both strengths and weaknesses are presented.

"These things are widely criticized as being problematic. They aren't criticisms we made up; they're criticisms widely held in the scientific community," said Discovery Institute fellow John West.

Steven Schafersman, president of Texas Citizens for Science, said there are no weaknesses in current textbooks' explanation of evolution. Publishers are required to cover evolution in science books.

The institute has referred to a theory dubbed intelligent design -- a belief that life did not evolve randomly but progressed according to a plan or design. No book on the mainstream market presents the intelligent design theory of evolution.

"We know that this is a very contentious issue. We know that, but the sorts of things we were proposing we thought were moderate," West said.

Samantha Smoot, executive director of the Texas Freedom Network, which monitors religious activists, argues that the Discovery Institute's arguments are rooted in religion. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1962 that the teaching of creationism in public schools is a violation of the separation of church and state.

"It says that the theory of evolution can't explain the diversity of life on this planet and that there must have been a designer," Smoot said. "That is a very valid and commonly held religious perspective, but not one that is upheld by scientific evidence. Therefore it's not one that belongs in science classrooms."

The Discovery Institute has maintained that its arguments have no religious foundation, but Smoot disagrees.

"The concept of intelligent design was crafted specifically to get around legal prohibitions against teaching religion in public schools," she said. "And as long as proponents of intelligent design deny that they're referring to God when they talk about the designer, they hope to be able to pull this off."

At least one publisher has submitted changes in line with the institute's recommendations.

Holt, Rinehart & Winston has submitted a change that directs students to "study hypotheses for the origin of life that are alternatives" to the others in the book. Students also are encouraged to research alternative theories on the Internet.


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1 posted on 11/01/2003 4:14:09 AM PST by I Am Not A Mod
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2 posted on 11/01/2003 4:18:18 AM PST by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: f.Christian
Politicians are up way too high on that tree.
3 posted on 11/01/2003 4:21:27 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: f.Christian
I love the tree!!
4 posted on 11/01/2003 4:21:28 AM PST by milan
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To: I Am Not A Mod
"alternative science"....now there is a strange term. Science is objective, going whereever the data lead. What can 'alternative' possibly mean?

"The concept of intelligent design was crafted specifically to get around legal prohibitions against teaching religion in public schools,"

Well, of course. Evolution should be taught as theory rather than fact, but intelligent design by whatever name should be left to religious training.

5 posted on 11/01/2003 4:25:12 AM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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To: RJCogburn
Your own words contradict themselves.... "Science is objective going whereever the data lead." The data does in fact tell of a "CREATOR", it is man that lacks intelligent design by preaching a theory which cannot be proven as fact.
7 posted on 11/01/2003 4:33:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
What data are that? Certainly there is some reason for existence and the universe but a 'Creator' of the kind you seem to suggest is a matter of faith, not data.
8 posted on 11/01/2003 4:37:58 AM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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To: RJCogburn
Certainly there is some reason for existence and the universe but a 'Creator' of the kind you seem to suggest is a matter of faith, not data.

Some of the data is the data of fact that there is no possible way that the number of life forms we have on this planet and the number of positive "mutations" that would have had to take place are even remotely possible. You want to talk about faith. It takes much less faith to belive in God than it does to buy the outlandish "hey, I need to reproduce, I think I will grow a dingle" sequence.

9 posted on 11/01/2003 4:47:01 AM PST by milan
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To: RJCogburn
Evolution uses existence as proof with no explanation of existence ... it happens (( big bang ))---

you 're comfortable with that gobble - gobble - turkey !

10 posted on 11/01/2003 4:48:03 AM PST by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: RJCogburn
What if the evidence points to inteligent design? Should "science" lie to the kids about the evidence or pretend that there is a materialistic explanation when there isn't one?

The Blind Atheist

11 posted on 11/01/2003 4:54:56 AM PST by Raymond Hendrix
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To: Raymond Hendrix
Should "science" lie to the kids about the evidence

Of course not. One need not be an atheist to be willing to follow data whereever it leads.

13 posted on 11/01/2003 5:16:31 AM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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To: milan
Some of the data is the data of fact that there is no possible way that the number of life forms we have on this planet and the number of positive "mutations" that would have had to take place are even remotely possible.

Okay, but a negative such as that does not answer questions with data. As I said, evolution is a theory, imo, not a proven.

14 posted on 11/01/2003 5:20:15 AM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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15 posted on 11/01/2003 5:23:02 AM PST by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: f.Christian
LOL!
16 posted on 11/01/2003 5:53:59 AM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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To: f.Christian
cool it
17 posted on 11/01/2003 6:08:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: RJCogburn
Some argue that there is no basis to be making speculations on supposed data at a macro level if the fundamental issues on the micro are unresolved. I listened to the author of the book, 'Darwin's Black Box' on MPR a couple years ago. He is an evolutionist that holds most current arguments in favor of the theory are, at best, specious wool gathering and doomed to collapse due to the profound lack of supporting evidence at the molecular and cellular levels.

The leftist listenership at our affiliate public radio station jammed their lines and went ape-sh*t on the poor guy even though he is an evolutionist.

Since I usually hold that lefties navigate 180 degrees from the truth on most issues, it got me to thinking.

Here's his book, if you're interested:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684834936/qid=1067695125/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-1268934-7829614

18 posted on 11/01/2003 6:11:24 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND NPR & PBS - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
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To: f.Christian
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1962 that the teaching of creationism in public schools is a violation of the separation of church and state

Well then, what's the problem for these lefties? Darwin was very definitely a creationist.

19 posted on 11/01/2003 6:16:35 AM PST by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
River city !

To: f.Christian

Dakmar...

I took a few minutes to decipher that post, and I must say I agree with a lot of what you said.

fC...

These were the Classical liberals...founding fathers-PRINCIPLES---stable/SANE scientific reality/society---industrial progress...moral/social character-values(private/personal) GROWTH(limited NON-intrusive PC Govt/religion---schools)!

Dakmar...

Where you and I diverge is on the Evolution/Communism thing. You seem to view Darwin and evolution as the beginning of the end for enlighted, moral civilization, while I think Marx, class struggle, and the "dictatorship of the proletariat" are the true dangers.

God bless you, I think we both have a common enemy in the BRAVE-NWO.

452 posted on 9/7/02 8:54 PM Pacific by Dakmar

20 posted on 11/01/2003 6:27:32 AM PST by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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