Posted on 11/02/2003 9:38:14 AM PST by nwrep
ata haish she oseh lashon hara hayom bze makom neged geveret steinberg. ani lo maamin she ata bemet yehudi biglal ani lo machir ai yehudi kol kach achur bnefesh kmocha
Now, back to the point(s) you originally (and ineptly) dodged: why, if you are, in fact, a Jew, would you attempt to lend credence to and further derogatory racial stereotypes (i.e., she looks like a million other Jewish women)? Please answer, with no further knock-kneed jigging and twirling on your part.
Unless and until we get some information to the contrary, I vote for busy with her own career. By all reports, she has never taken an interest in Howard's political career, from the earliest days on. She has been utterly consistent. She's probably a doctor who is happy being a doctor and pretty busy at it, too.
If I were going to speculate further, I might guess that she liked the idea of being married to a fellow doctor and might not like Howard abandoning a lucrative (at least moderately so, I presume) practice. Further, while doctors often are busy, the time demands on serious politicos are orders of magnitude worse. To step a bit deeper into the swamp of unfounded speculation, let's at least entertain the possibility that she actually liked having her husband around of an evening. If that's the case, she would not be the first to feel herself a political widow.
Pure speculation, but I'd rather think the best of someone until proven wrong. I'm not minded to pick on her because of her husband.
Now, back to the point(s) you originally (and ineptly) dodged: why, if you are, in fact, a Jew, would you attempt to lend credence to and further derogatory racial stereotypes (i.e., she looks like a million other Jewish women)? Please answer, with no further knock-kneed jigging and twirling on your part.
Judith looks like a million other Jewish women, and they are beautiful too. She has the quiet natural beauty of a wife and mother. You should be ashamed of yourself on this thread for ridiculing the physical features G-d gave her.
Judith looks like a million other Jewish women, and they are beautiful too.
I can't reliably state that I've met one million people of any particular stripe -- much less one million of my own fellow Jews -- but: you're wrong, and you're wrong with a hat on. The average Jewish woman is one thousand times better looking than The Deanette... and it's no insult to them to state so, straightforwardly and sans apology.
My wife (Ashkenazi Jew) is better looking than her. My wife's sister is better looking than her. My mother-in-law is better looking than her... and SHE'S in her SIXTIES, for heaven's sakes.
She has the quiet natural beauty of a wife and mother.
There is nothing inherently "beautiful" in being either a wife or a mother. Hillary Clinton, after all, is both. Are you even listening to yourself, at this point...?!?
You should be ashamed of yourself on this thread for ridiculing the physical features G-d gave her.
It's G-d who owes her the apology, then; not me.
bevakaha, ani rotze lishmoah l'ishtacha al hadavar haze.
vaharei ani rotze l'daat leze shul ata holech.
Maybe you're not getting older.
Maybe you're going blind.
Maybe so, but no matter how she looks there's some guy, somewhere who will. It's nature.
Good points, Michael -- more pertinent to this discussion that 95% of the drivel that's been posted so far.
It simply isn't appropriate to criticize Mrs. Dean because of her relatively plain looks, lack of makeup, etc. Less than inappropriate, it's irrelevant.
The relevant - and important - questions are _not_ being asked in this thread.
I sense that the reason Mrs. Dean has not played a visible role in her husband's political life is by _her_ choice, which the Dean campaign respects.
That's OK for the "non-political" wife of a governor, a senator, or a U.S. Congressman. These women can live away from the limelight and political spotlight if they so choose.
A first lady, however, _cannot_. Nor, for that matter, can the wife of a nominated presidential candidate.
Let us turn the tables for a moment, and play the devil's advocate. Suppose it was the wife of a _Republican_ presidential candidate who shied away from the limelight as does Mrs. Dean?
How long before the "mainstream media" would be ALL OVER THIS ISSUE, shouting why, _why_, WHY??
It is revealing of their hypocrisy that they do not ask important questions of Mrs. Dean.
I sense that Mrs Dean may actually be to the political left of her husband (insofar as that's possible), or that some of the aspects of her practice she may wish to keep in shadows. What's her medical specialty?
And does she _really_ believe that -- if Dean is elected president -- she can "keep her practice", remaining in Vermont?
What about the Secret Service? What about the matter of protection of the wife of the President?
How could she possibly practice medicine, which involves seeing patients? The access to the wife of the president must be controlled nearly as strictly as access to the President himself. How would Mrs. Dean maintain an "office", seeing old and new patients, people without clearance to be near the wife of the President? Are the patients going to be issued security clearances for each visit? What about _new_ patients, or referrals?
C'mon, help me out. I just can't see this happening.
The "job" of First Lady is a job in itself at the White House. If Mrs. Dean isn't going to be interested in doing it, or even interested in living _in_ the White House, who _is_?
Cheers!
- John
Judith Steinberg(Mrs. Howard Dean)...
The campaign, though, has found her. She is in demand for interviews, but largely avoiding them. And when her son this summer was sentenced to a diversion program for helping four friends steal alcohol from a local country club, national press descended. (Steinberg granted an interview to the Globe provided that incident would not be discussed.)
I think she's fine; a worthy sucessor to Eleanor Roosevelt.
Oh - stop preening, hillbilly - I've spent a great deal of time in "Flyover Country" - 30,000 ft. up - ;)
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