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Worse than North Korea?
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 2 November 2003

Posted on 11/03/2003 2:07:40 PM PST by anotherview

Nov. 2, 2003
Worse than North Korea?

Over the past decade, the North Korean "people's" regime of Kim Jong-Il has starved an estimated three million of its citizens. A roughly equal number work in slave labor camps that dwarf Auschwitz in size and nearly in cruelty.

The regime has developed nuclear weapons, in violation of several agreements, and intends to sell those weapons to the highest bidder. It has lobbed ballistic missiles over Japan. It threatens a war of annihilation against its southern neighbor. It supports itself by dealing drugs and counterfeit currency. But at least it's not as bad as Israel.

That, at any rate, is the conclusion of a just-released poll of Europeans from 15 EU member states sponsored by the European Commission. Asked to rank 15 countries on how they threaten "world peace," Europeans chose their top threats thus: Israel, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the United States.

A full 59 percent of those polled in 15 European nations ranked Israel as the top threat. What is one to make of this?

The simplest explanation cannot be dismissed. As Minister-without-Portfolio Natan Sharansky, responsible for Diaspora affairs, responded, the fact that Europe regards Israel as more threatening than nations that support and finance terrorism is "proof that behind 'political' criticism of Israel stands nothing less than pure anti-Semitism."

It is fair for Sharansky to challenge the EU to work to halt the "demonization" of Israel "before Europe again deteriorates to the dark vestiges of its past." But the poll results do not just reveal hateful and intense anti-Israel sentiment – they are incoherent.

Among the six nations ranked as top threats are two veteran democracies besieged by terrorism, the US and Israel; two rogue dictatorships, Iran and North Korea; and two former terrorist states now beginning to taste freedom, Afghanistan and Iraq. It is as if the European mind worked like this: any country that is in the headlines related to the war against terrorism, whatever side it is on and regardless of whether it is free or oppressed, is a threat to world peace.

We know that Europeans tend to regard any discussion of good and evil, or democracy and dictatorship, as "cowboy talk" and terribly unsophisticated. But now we find the European opposition to such petty distinctions taken to an opposite extreme.

How sophisticated is it for Europeans to become the modern-day equivalent of the old non-aligned movement with respect to the greatest threat of the day, the threat from militant Islam and its embrace of terrorism?

Truly sophisticated Europeans would perhaps notice that continental nihilism is getting out of hand. During the Cold War, an equally irresponsible neutralism became fashionable in Europe between the US and the Soviet Union. But in reality, Europe remained part of NATO and the threat of being overrun by Soviet divisions was extremely remote.

Not so in the current conflict.

Militant Islam and its arsenal of terrorism will either be beaten, or it will engulf Europe as well. It does not take an enormous degree of sophistication to realize that, now that the United States and Israel have come under vicious attack, remaining neutral in the struggle will not save protect Europe over the long run.

This realization seems to have begun to sink in to the extent that even Europe is worried about Iran developing nuclear weapons. But this poll shows that whatever ability European governments have to distinguish between political fashion and reality may not extend to European publics.

The fact that so many Europeans feel that Israel and the United States are threats to world peace comparable to Iran and North Korea bespeaks a profound intellectual and ideological malaise.

Is Europe's fourth estate so confused that it would have answered the poll the same way?

In any case, European journalists should ask themselves, did we really intend to lump Israel, now suffering its fourth year of suicide bombings, along with Iran, a primary terrorism sponsor, and North Korea, a nuclear proliferator?

Ironically, the same poll found that 81 percent of Europeans thought that the EU should become more involved in Middle East peacemaking efforts.

Obviously, such polls confirm every Israeli instinct to keep Europeans as far away from any position of diplomatic influence as possible.

Memo to Europe: Demonizing a democracy under attack is no way to win friends and influence people.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; eu; eupoll; israel; kimjongil; natansharansky; northkorea; sharansky; whatelseisnew

1 posted on 11/03/2003 2:07:40 PM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview
Sounds like it is time to bump off Kim Jong II: That evil little toad is addicted to Daffy Duck comic books.
2 posted on 11/03/2003 2:19:49 PM PST by ex-Texan (CBS [SeeBS] Deserves a Long Double Flush . . . Pull the Chain!)
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To: anotherview
EU Neo-Nazi Government intensifies "Jews as scapegoat" campaign


Among the lastest developments

- manufactured "poll" (Researchers have found Europeans believe Israel poses the biggest threat to world peace)

- the rehabilitation of Nazi criminals" in the former Soviet republics that joined or will join NATO (latest : Estonia and Latvia)

- going as far as mentioning the Rothschilds in connection with the "oligarchs"

- completing the last act on staging the case of Michel Friedman in Germany
3 posted on 11/03/2003 2:49:00 PM PST by Truth666
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To: anotherview
Europeans chose their top threats thus: Israel, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the United States.

Europeans are insane!

4 posted on 11/03/2003 3:33:28 PM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Reagan Man
The poll results I saw had Israel, Iran, first and second, with North Korea and the US tied for third. That's worrisome.

As far as Israel is concerned, I don't see them as much different than the Islamic states. Go ahead, tar and feather me if you like, but I've my reasons.

Prior to 9/11 my view of Israel was equal to that of their Arab neighbors. On 9/11, my first reaction was that we should nuke the whole region from the face of the earth. My uncle told me this would be genocide, but I felt no guilt. My nephew told me we shouldn't mess with Israel as it is a Jewish state, and the Jews are God's chosen. I've pondered that thought, and believe it. I believe something more though.

In the Bible, the kingdom of the Israel was split in the time of King David. The northern state was Israel, and turned to pagan gods. The southern state was Judah, and was committed to God. Judah, not Israel represents God's chosen.

I don't see the present state of Israel as being any closer to God than the biblical predecessor. I respect Israel as a military power, but that that doesn't sway my opinion of present day Israel. Somewhere in this world, the tribes of Judah exists, and they will assemble again as the children of God.
5 posted on 11/03/2003 4:21:59 PM PST by backtothestreets
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To: anotherview
Do the idiots think that the suicide bombers (incuding WTC) are Jews disguised as Arabs?

Just wait until their Mohamidan immigrant minority starts to produce its own suicide bombers.
6 posted on 11/03/2003 4:27:53 PM PST by rogator
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To: ex-Texan
obviously North Korea is the biggest threat.

Iran
Syria
Venezuela is becomming a destabilizing force.
Cuba will be when Fidel passes on.
China and Russia are still threats to peace.
7 posted on 11/03/2003 4:50:43 PM PST by CPT Clay (57 in '04)
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To: anotherview
"Militant Islam and its arsenal of terrorism will either be beaten, or it will engulf Europe "

Personally, I think that this is not an either/or proposition. I think both will happen. Militant Islam (in the middle East) will be contained, but militant Islam will engulf Europe, the Continent; in fact, it's already happening.
8 posted on 11/03/2003 8:43:29 PM PST by Chu Gary
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To: backtothestreets
"In the Bible, the kingdom of Israel was split in the time of King David."

Wrong, of course. The kingdom was split after the death of Solomon.

When you speak in ignorance, you reap scorn. Try reading the Bible before you start preaching about Israel.

9 posted on 11/09/2003 6:34:23 PM PST by wife-mom
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To: wife-mom
You are right about this occuring after the death of Solomon. Thanks for the correction.
10 posted on 11/10/2003 8:33:55 AM PST by backtothestreets
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To: anotherview
Europe has a simple solution for the Arab-Israeli problem: the destruction of Israel, and the immigration of the survivors to the United States.

Europe's frustration is rooted in the perverse -- indeed downright belligerent -- refusal of Israel to accept such an obvious solution.

11 posted on 11/10/2003 8:42:41 AM PST by sphinx
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