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Mexican president lays out demands for immigration reform before U.S. visit
Associated Press ^ | 11-03-03

Posted on 11/03/2003 2:59:24 PM PST by Brian S

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:44:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Vicente Fox said Monday that Mexico wanted work visas, legalization and family reunification for undocumented migrants, but stopped short of calling for U.S. citizenship for them.

Speaking to reporters on the eve of his Nov. 4-6 visit to Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, Fox said immigration issues will be on the agenda of his visit, but that trade and economic issues will also be discussed.


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico
KEYWORDS: immigrantlist; turass; vicentefox
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1 posted on 11/03/2003 2:59:26 PM PST by Brian S
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To: *immigrant_list
ping...
2 posted on 11/03/2003 3:00:21 PM PST by Brian S
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To: Brian S
Listen up Fox - "Get stuffed!"
3 posted on 11/03/2003 3:02:24 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: Brian S
It's bounty time, send them all back dead or alive!
4 posted on 11/03/2003 3:03:24 PM PST by dalereed (,)
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To: Brian S
It isn't the place of the Mexican President to DEMAND a G*d D*mned thing of our president or congress. Send him a note that says "enjoy your stay in Mexico, you are not welcome here as long as you demand a d*mn thing"



5 posted on 11/03/2003 3:03:30 PM PST by Gringo1 (Learn to speak Spanish or you cannot order a happy meal.)
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To: chicagolady
ping
6 posted on 11/03/2003 3:03:57 PM PST by prairiebreeze (God bless our coaltion troops. And their families because they are soldiers too.)
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To: Brian S
"undocumented migrants." Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr They are ILLEGAL ALIENS and they are tearing the fabric of our society, our culture and our nation apart. If the TRAITOR George W. Bush (who panders to illegals and murderous Muslims but seems to care nothing about the rightful citizens of this country) doesn't do something about this problem and soon, we won't have a country left and I'll have moved to Greenland or someplace equally remote.
7 posted on 11/03/2003 3:04:34 PM PST by vikingcelt
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To: Brian S
We're currently paying to educate and medicate millions of your countrymen, presidente, who in turn send billions of dollars to prop up your sick economy, and you're still "laying out demands"?

The American people have an unlimited capacity to absorb insults, apparently. How much longer can this go on?

8 posted on 11/03/2003 3:05:01 PM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: HiJinx
ping
9 posted on 11/03/2003 3:05:22 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Brian S
His people are breaking our laws and his government is assisting them... and he is making demands?????
10 posted on 11/03/2003 3:05:51 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Brian S
Bush should send him a note:

"Joda te"

Fox will know what the means.
11 posted on 11/03/2003 3:07:38 PM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: Brian S
I got yur "demand" right here.
12 posted on 11/03/2003 3:08:00 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Brian S
"Fortunately, we are back at the negotiating table with the government of President Bush."

I'm sure our President will straighten him out, but good! ;-)

13 posted on 11/03/2003 3:09:22 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
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To: Brian S
GW should answer our Mexican guest's demands by suggesting that he and the vast majority of Americans would approve of the naming of a university after him....
14 posted on 11/03/2003 3:09:34 PM PST by tracer
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To: dalereed
"It's bounty time, send them all back dead or alive!"

Why make it so complicated??

15 posted on 11/03/2003 3:10:59 PM PST by tracer
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To: Gringo1
AMERICA PARA LOS ILEGALES

Paul Craig Roberts
Friday, Oct. 3, 2003


All the 6 million poor and disabled Americans need to do is to acquire Mexican citizenship and recross the border as illegal aliens. Once Americans acquire the status of illegal aliens, their medical care is provided free without even a co-pay.

Not to worry, veterans who defended your country, just become Mexican illegals, and you will be cared for.

Are you the parent of a college-aged student who you would like to send to your alma mater, but can't as you have moved away from home, placing out-of-state tuition between you and your old school? Not to worry. Just send your offspring in search of Mexican citizenship. Depending on the location of your alma mater, once your son or daughter recrosses the border as an alien, the state's taxpayers will cover the out-of-state tuition charge.


Dr. Roberts' latest book, "The Tyranny of Good Intentions," has been published by Prima Publishers


16 posted on 11/03/2003 3:11:30 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: Brian S
U.S. to Fox: "Talk to the hand, 'cause the ears ain't listening."
17 posted on 11/03/2003 3:12:29 PM PST by Warhammer (Cry havok! and let slip the dogs of war!)
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To: vikingcelt
Is illegal aliens a strong enough moniker anymore? They are acting in concert with the official policy of the government of Mexico. Perhaps Foriegn Invaders is now a more accurate description.
18 posted on 11/03/2003 3:12:29 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Brian S
Hey Fox, Thanks for your support in the war against terrorism. The war against illegal drugs from YOUR country.
Your crackdown on corruption in your country at every leval of govt. And illegal emmigration you ass. Hope you lose and go home and die.
19 posted on 11/03/2003 3:12:38 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: Brian S
but stopped short of calling for U.S. citizenship for them.

Well, that's mighty white of him....

20 posted on 11/03/2003 3:12:44 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Santa Ana wind and fire season runs thru late November..we're just beginning)
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To: Brian S
Isn't this the same Vicente Fox that's turned his back on the USA on numerous occasions when his support would've been welcomed by our fedgov in disputes with the UN & other int'l issues?
21 posted on 11/03/2003 3:14:00 PM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: Brian S
F*#!@ YOU !!!!!
22 posted on 11/03/2003 3:14:00 PM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: Brian S
Bush's response. "SIR YES SIR!!!"

What Bush should say. "Screw You"

23 posted on 11/03/2003 3:14:51 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Don't blame me. I voted for Rocky.)
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To: Brian S
You know, I used to think the writings of Sherman Skolnick were delusional, crazy, wildly imaginitive.

Recently, I have read from him that Fox has the goods on the Bush and family and basically Bush will follow his lead for fear of exposing some dark secret or another.

Please tell me if anything else can explain this insanity?

24 posted on 11/03/2003 3:14:52 PM PST by riri
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To: Brian S
"We need for the families of those who already are there to be able to get together their relatives ... and organize a flow of people who go each year for temporary work, or permanent work, without the need to become U.S. citizens."

What the heck does this mean? Organize a flow of people? They are already flowing. What does he want, rental cars and cell phones? I don't think I have the same views regarding working illegals as many do here, but when Fox starts believing that he is in a position to dictate and demand, I may have to abandon my views on solutions to the current problem.

25 posted on 11/03/2003 3:15:34 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Brian S; madfly; txflake; mhking; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; JohnHuang2; Mudboy Slim; dixie sass; ...
Va al infierno usted hijo centrado uno mismo del ogotisticle de una subsistencia de la perra su gente ilegal en su país y para el robar de Soveriegnty americano

Bump

26 posted on 11/03/2003 3:16:32 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Brian S

We did it once, we can do it again...

27 posted on 11/03/2003 3:18:30 PM PST by LouD
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Most important Spanish sentence of all for us gringos to learn: Donde esta el banyo (i.e., "Where's the bathroom?")

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

28 posted on 11/03/2003 3:19:20 PM PST by mhking
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To: Brian S; JustPiper; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!LOL!
29 posted on 11/03/2003 3:21:12 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: Scenic Sounds
I'm sure our President will straighten him out, but good! ;-)

What are you talking about......I guaruntee Bush is going to sing any legislation that crosses his desk to legalize all the illegals.......sheesh

30 posted on 11/03/2003 3:22:16 PM PST by Legerdemain
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To: Brian S
Mr. Fox;
I demand that Mexicans stop taking cuts in front of immigrants who follow the law!!

I demand that you relax property ownership laws so US citizens can retire in your country.
I am tired of paying more than a dollar a gallon for gasoline. I demand that you produce more oil and sell it to the united states!!!
31 posted on 11/03/2003 3:23:08 PM PST by CPT Clay
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To: LouD
Better pic

"Flight of Santa Anna from the Battle of Cerro Gordo," (Philadelphia: R. McGee, ca.1848).

Where's Winfield Scott when we need him?

32 posted on 11/03/2003 3:23:08 PM PST by LouD
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To: dalereed
US to Fox, stay home!
Or maybe he could make his point by sneaking into America.
33 posted on 11/03/2003 3:23:38 PM PST by Warren
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To: LouD
To the rear, March!
34 posted on 11/03/2003 3:24:14 PM PST by Warren
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To: Brian S
I really fear and expect Bush to sell us down the river on this. And it's all political. He thinks the Mexicans who can vote will be so grateful to him that they will vote for him and his party. Wrong. Latins mostly vote liberal (socialist). Interestingly enough though, more than 50% of those Mexicans with U.S. citizenship in California voted against Gray. The reason for this is that they went the legal route to get their legal papers. This takes many years and tons of paperwork and, therefore, they have no sympathy for those wetbacks.
35 posted on 11/03/2003 3:24:16 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: riri
He must have something on everyone in Congress. How else to explain their support of Orrin Hatch's "Dream Act"?

Should have been named "Taxpayers Nightmare"
36 posted on 11/03/2003 3:25:12 PM PST by CaptainK
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To: chicagolady; Lobbyist; Klickitat; american spirit; Jim Cane; ClaireSolt; tubebender; ...
read it and weep, OR get educated and activated!

www.numbersusa.com
37 posted on 11/03/2003 3:26:43 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; *immigrant_list; yall

Click here or on the pic for the full article

38 posted on 11/03/2003 3:28:53 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: Dolphy
...working illegals...

The problem is not that they're working.

The problem is excessive use of government services compared to the tax revenue generated, a refusal to assimilate, the dramatic growth of crime and gang activity by their dropouts (~50%), the large number of illegal drivers who have no insurance and flee accidents, ad nauseum.

No, working is not the problem.

39 posted on 11/03/2003 3:29:25 PM PST by jimt
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To: nuffsenuff
Your right...except I believe he would better understand "jodete." The same could be said to Bush if he sticks this to us.
40 posted on 11/03/2003 3:34:32 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Brian S
"Asked when he thought immigration reform could be realized, Fox said "I don't think we should build expectations beyond reality."

Reality is buy MORE ammo.

"We've just come through months in which there wasn't any progress at all."

Now THAT would be real progress. At 2-3 million mexican criminals doing the Southern Border Bounce per year, if we could block the boarder for one year, all south-o-the-boarder towns would colapse under the strain.

41 posted on 11/03/2003 3:36:55 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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And here's another thought: I wonder if Mexico offers drivers licenses to its own illegal immigrants or allows them to stay, work, steal, etc.
42 posted on 11/03/2003 3:38:54 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Brian S
I am totally for the family reunification. It should all happen on the "Mexican side" of the boarder "only" though.
43 posted on 11/03/2003 3:39:17 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
My spanish is rusty.
44 posted on 11/03/2003 3:44:14 PM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
this doesn't make me happy at all - I could go off on my usual rant. You've heard it before, AP, so I won't bore you with it!
45 posted on 11/03/2003 3:45:21 PM PST by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: Brian S
Another reason not to buy a Ford Product...
46 posted on 11/03/2003 3:46:56 PM PST by tubebender (FReeRepublic...How bad have you got it...)
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To: Brian S
when we have to demand, we demand;

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On what basis do you think I and others here should submit to your demands other than we are saddled with a weakling president.

47 posted on 11/03/2003 3:51:13 PM PST by RLK
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To: CaptainK
He may have something on some of our congresscrooks, etc.; but I assure you, we have a zillion more things on Fox. He is also a big time crook. If we wanted to, we could bring him down in a nanosecond.
48 posted on 11/03/2003 3:54:09 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Dolphy
He wants a flow of people? No problemo, senor. Just flow 'em all the hell BACK across the border.

I didn't used to care so much about this. Now I'm to the point where I think they need to be rounded up and deported back to their countries of origin en masse, and that the Constitution needs to be amended to NOT make a child born on US soil an automatic citizen unless one of his/her parents is a citizen. And to hell with what it may or may not do to the economy. It's evolved into a national security issue more than an economic issue.

}:-)4
49 posted on 11/03/2003 3:54:40 PM PST by Moose4 (What America needs is less "law" and more common sense.)
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To: nuffsenuff
My spanish is rusty.

Repetan: "Mi español está el hierro oxidado."

If W caves into ANY of Fox's demands, I'm just going to start calling him George W. Skunk for now on.

50 posted on 11/03/2003 3:55:59 PM PST by Jim Cane ("I've always lived twice." ~ Dr. Sarcophagus.)
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