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"Stop calling firefighters 'heroes.' " (A cush job most of the time)
Slate ^ | Oct. 31, 03 | Douglas Gantenbein

Posted on 11/03/2003 3:01:57 PM PST by churchillbuff

Stop calling firefighters "heroes." By Douglas Gantenbein Posted Friday, October 31, 2003, at 12:05 PM PT

A cush job, most of the time

When California Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger toured the state's catastrophic wildfires a few days ago, he uttered the phrase that now accompanies any blaze as surely as smoke: "The firefighters are the true heroes."

It's understandable why he said that. As fires go, the California blazes are scary. They are moving incredibly quickly through dried brush and chaparral that practically explode when they ignite, threatening the life of any firefighter nearby. Steven L. Rucker, a 38-year-old firefighter and paramedic for the town of Novato, was killed working to save houses. Elsewhere, thousands of firefighters have worked for hours on end in 95-degree heat, dressed in multiple layers of fire-resistant clothing, sometimes without enough food or water because of the long and shifting supply lines.

Given all that, it may seem churlish to suggest that firefighters might not deserve the lofty pedestal we so insistently place them on. We lionize them, regard them as unsullied by base motivations, see them as paragons of manliness (and very tough womanliness). They're easily our most-admired public servants, and in the public's eye probably outrank just about anyone except the most highly publicized war veterans. But the "hero" label is tossed around a little too often when the subject is firefighting. Here's why:

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Firefighting is a cushy job. Firefighters may have the best work schedule in the United States—24 hours on, 48 hours off. And those 24 hours are usually not terribly onerous. While a few big-city fire stations may have four, five, six calls, or more during a shift, most aren't nearly that busy, giving firefighters time to give tours to school kids, barbecue hamburgers, wash fire engines, sleep, and pose for "The Firefighters of [Your City Here], 2004" calendars. Indeed, fire officials devote much of their time to figuring out how to cover up the fact they're not getting the hoses out very often. So we have firefighters doing ambulance work, firefighters doing search-and-rescue work, anything but Job No. 1. Meanwhile, the long days off give many firefighters a chance to start second careers. That makes it easy for them to retire after 20 years, take a pension, and start another profession. I've known firefighters who moonlighted as builders, photographers, and attorneys.

Firefighting isn't that dangerous. Of course there are hazards, and about 100 firefighters die each year. But firefighting doesn't make the Department of Labor's 2002 list of the 10 most dangerous jobs in America. Loggers top that one, followed by commercial fishermen in the No. 2 spot, and general-aviation commercial pilots (crop dusters and the like) at No. 3. Firefighting trails truck-driving (No. 10) in its risks. Pizza delivery drivers (No. 5) have more dangerous jobs than firefighters, statistically speaking. And fatalities, when they occur in firefighting, often are due to heart attacks and other lack-of-fitness problems, not fire. In those cases where firefighters die in a blaze, it's almost always because of some unbelievable screw-up in the command chain. It's been well-documented, for instance, that lousy communication was a huge reason why so many firefighters still were in the burning World Trade Center when it imploded, and well after city police and port authority police had been warned by their own commanders of an imminent collapse and cleared out.

Firefighters are adrenalin junkies. I did mountain rescue work for several years and more than once was praised as a "hero." Oh, give me a break. It was fun and exciting. Firefighting is even more of a rush. Sharon Waxman, in an excellent article in the Washington Post, interviewed firefighters in California. Every one was in a complete lather to get to the next hot spot. "It's almost a slugfest to get in there," one told Waxman. This urge to reach the fire is not entirely altruistic. It sure beats washing that damned fire truck again, for one thing. Plus a big fire is thrilling, plain and simple.

Firefighters have excellent propaganda skills. Firefighters play the hero card to its limit. Any time a big-city firefighter is killed on duty, that city will all but shut down a few days later while thousands of firefighters line the streets for a procession. In July 2001, I witnessed the tasteless spectacle of Washington state firefighters staging a massive public display to "honor" four young people killed in a forest fire (one absurd touch: hook-and-ladder rigs extended to form a huge arch over the entrance to the funeral hall). For the families of the four dead firefighters—three of whom were teens trying to make a few bucks for college—the parade, the solemn speeches, and the quasi-military trappings all were agony. "It's just the firefighters doing their thing," one bystander said to me later with a shrug.

Firefighters are just another interest group. Firefighters use their heroic trappings to play special interest politics brilliantly. It is a heavily unionized occupation. Nothing's wrong with that, but let's not assume they're always acting in anything but their own best interests. In Seattle not long ago a squabble broke out between police and firefighters when both were called to the scene of a capsized dinghy in a lake. The firefighters put a diver in the water, a police officer on the scene ordered him out to make way for a police team, and all hell broke loose (yes, the cops were at fault, too). The dispute wasn't over public safety, it was over who got the glory. New York firefighters, admittedly deep in grief over lost co-workers, exacerbated the challenge of body recovery operations after 9/11 by insisting on elaborate removal procedures for each firefighter uncovered, an insult to others who died there. Not long before that, in Boston, a special commission released a scathing report that detailed a 1,600-member fire department up to its bunker gear in racism, sexism, and homophobia. Since then the department has bitterly resisted reform efforts.

None of this is meant to dispute that firefighters aren't valuable to the communities in which they work. They are. But our society is packed with unheralded heroes—small-town physicians, teachers in poverty-stricken neighborhoods, people who work in dirty, dangerous jobs like coal-mining to support a family. A firefighter plunging into a burning house to retrieve a frightened, smoke-blinded child is a hero. But let's save the encomiums for when they are truly deserved, not when they just show up to do their job.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; firefighters; firefighting; heroes; wildfires
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To: churchillbuff
I agree with a lot of the points the author makes. Firefighters are often heroes but they also play this angle to avoid having anyone question their use of public resources.

I once worked with someone who was a firefighter two days a week. He slept and ate in the firehouse on those days and was paid for a forty hours, leaving him time to simultaneously pursue a second career.

Why do fire engines always show up on calls requiring only paramedics and/or an ambulance? As far as I can tell this is largely a matter of justifying the fire department budget at the end of the year, when the department can point to the numbers of times the fire truck was called out.

On a number of occasions I have observed the spectacle of thousands of firefighters converging from out of town to commemorate fallen comrades. It's good that the heroism of the dead firefighters is respected, but who pays for the travel and salaries of all these firefighters who are away from their home districts?

121 posted on 11/03/2003 6:09:54 PM PST by wideminded
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To: IronJack
Does your statement include volunteer firemen? You see, just like paid firemen, volunteer firemen train in between fires. Also, firemen don't just put out fires, they respond to automobile accidents when the Jaws of Life are needed to pull people out of there cars. Firemen also respond to medical emergencies and chemical spills.
122 posted on 11/03/2003 6:10:10 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: wideminded
Check out some of the other goop that this "writer" has put out there:

These measures will not only be bad for trees; Gantenbein says they will also be bad for business. First, there's no need for more timber in the timber market. In fact, there's a glut of timber right now. Prices are down, exports are down, demand is down.

Second, Gantenberg points out that the economy in the West actually picked up when logging was curtailed a decade or so ago. That's because standing trees are worth more than cut trees -- to tourists. "Thomas Power, an economist with the University of Montana, says that by the late 90s, eight of 10 national forests in Montana generated three times as much income from tourism and recreation as they did from cutting down trees." [Gantenberg, ibid.]

Why is it so all-fired important to the Bush Regime to cut down trees? Gantenberg suggests that to the Bushies, ideology trumps common sense: "In conservative circles logging is a bellwether issue, a club with which to beat Bill Clinton, the Sierra Club, and the heavy hand of government in general. Logging is a kind of religious issue: Conservatives take it on faith that cutting down trees is good for business." Except that, in fact, it isn't.

He's not a friend of the regular guy and his Ironic Detachment button is pushed full on just to poke a stick in your side.

123 posted on 11/03/2003 6:15:39 PM PST by Thebaddog (Cubs will do it again, Next Year)
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To: steelwheels
I don't believe that I said that ALL firemen are automatically deserving to be called a hero. BUT firemen are heros when they put their lives on the line to save others - period.

And do I think the firemen knew that the towers were going to fall? It's hard to say. The damage was massive. I believe that the risk to life and limb was obvious - especially to those rescue workers who went into the buildings.
124 posted on 11/03/2003 6:43:04 PM PST by TheBattman ("It's a feature, not a bug....")
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To: churchillbuff
I won't say a word except I hope this writer doesn't need a FF when they are scraped all over the road.
125 posted on 11/03/2003 6:45:09 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: All
If you can handle dead people all the time for 30 years, then I guess you wouldn't be a hero, but many of us consider the ability to pick up severed legs, drag people out of infernos with house made with truss construction and gang nails, houses on fire ready to flashover or back draft, roof that are ready to collapse when it is being ventalated, hazardous material spills, mountains on fire, well shit I consider that a frickin' hero. Most fire fighters are volunteers or paid call, they do it because they'd rather give back to the community, rather than getting drunk and smoking weed.

This article is gross.

126 posted on 11/03/2003 6:50:26 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: All
If you can handle dead people all the time for 30 years, then I guess you wouldn't be a hero, but many of us consider the ability to pick up severed legs, drag people out of infernos with house made with truss construction and gang nails, houses on fire ready to flashover or back draft, roof that are ready to collapse when it is being ventalated, hazardous material spills, mountains on fire, well shit I consider that a frickin' hero. Most fire fighters are volunteers or paid call, they do it because they'd rather give back to the community, rather than getting drunk and smoking weed.

This article is gross.

127 posted on 11/03/2003 6:50:28 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: Rodney King
The reality is that over the last 15 years with the better building codes, the number of actual fires has plummeted. The firefighters responded by every year coming up with new and different things that they ought to be doing with their time because they just weren't fighting fires very often.

That's the way I hear it. Not true in all locales, but this is true in many. There can be many redundant rescue (EMS) services too. Many fire departments encompass some EMS. I once saw a drunk fall down unconscious in Boston. Within 10 minutes, 4 emergency medical vehicles were on the scene. Ambulances of one kind and another.
128 posted on 11/03/2003 6:59:28 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: clintonh8r
Well said. I am in substantial agreement with the writer, too, and everyone here who is bitching, who thinks the word hero should apply to whole classes of people simply because they do tough jobs, doesn't understand what a hero is.

A hero is someone who in knowing, intentional contravention of his or her own interests, sacrifices to help another. The proliferation of those labeled 'heroes' demeans those who are true heroic. Few make that list.

"Go, stranger, and o Sparta tell,
Faithful to Her laws, here, we fell."


129 posted on 11/03/2003 7:04:06 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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To: wideminded; IronJack; Skywalk
Ping to 129.
130 posted on 11/03/2003 7:12:05 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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To: clintonh8r
" I believe the word "hero" is overused and therefore devalued."

That seems to be the crux of this problem. Firefighters are volunteers. They go to fight fires, because they like to fight fires, or just ride on the trucks. They earn their keep, however, every time they roll.
I work about 20 hours a week at my job, and make well in excess of $100k. I work hard. But not for long periods. Big deal.
A hero pulls the kid out of the burning building. A firefighter can be a hero. But all firefighters are not heroes. And that is the way I see it!
Show me a firefighter, and I will ask him to explain it better!
131 posted on 11/03/2003 7:14:00 PM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt!)
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To: churchillbuff
Pardon me for saying so, but SHUT the F*ck up! More firefighters than cops die every year. This puss is whining because they work too few hours? Gimme a friggin' break. There's a REASON for that. My dad was and my brother is a firefighter in Texas. They clean up more crap, witness more sh*t, respond to more accidents, and basically end up doing janitorial work for which a janitor is more suited. They are firefighters, EMTs and basically, HEROES. Shut the f*ck up, b*tch and go back to writing on your birdcage liner.
132 posted on 11/03/2003 7:14:38 PM PST by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Speaking of heros, much has been written in this post reagrding what makes a hero a hero. Now for a little musing. . .

Many of the posts have many fine words that speak well of the strong character of heros. Incredibly, some people in America just don't get it. Some, not here, but Maher specifically, call cowards "heros" because they rode a jet into a building.

We are told these terrorists were brave because they sacrificed themselves while committing an evil act. It boggles the mind that suicide while committing an unspeakable evil would qualify as an act of bravery.

To be brave means more than having the will to kill yourself. To argue otherwise is to insist there are no differences between taking a bullet while saving an innocent life, and simply putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger after committing murder.

What separates an act of bravery from an act of evil lunacy is a noble, moral goal. Therefore, if one sacrifices one’s life for a noble and moral end, such as saving the life of an innocent victim, IMHO, one can rightly be judged brave.

However, if one dies while using innocent civilians as a weapon to attack other innocent civilians, with the aim of killing innocent civilians, that act can in no way be considered brave. It is an evil act.

Consequently, to label suicidal terrorist “brave” is to diminish and insult the truly brave, such as the firefighters and police officers that perished in New York City, and the passengers of Flight 97 that crashed in Pennsylvania while thwarting a high-jacking.

If this great nation is to survive we need to be able to distinguish good from evil, bravery from cowardice.

There are moral absolutes, and an evil is not an act courage, no matter how hard moral relativists try to say different.

Just my opinion, of course.
133 posted on 11/03/2003 7:19:12 PM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: dennisw
Better Building Codes

THIS IS A LIE, the houses are thrown up using trusses, houses and buildings easily collapse, do not use nails but gang-nails that pop out of the wood as the temperature increases, and the metal used in construction is often not treated to resist heat. At 1,000 degrees steel increases by 10% increasing the likeliness of buildings using steel to collapse.

Also, materials used in furniture have BTU much 3-4 times higher than organic materials of the past meaning that the houses burn hotter, faster.

Also, houses are built to retain heat and insulate the heat, that means that flashover and back draft are more likely... 1200-2000 degrees... hot enough to cook you through your PPE and leave a spot. Cotton and traditional materials burn much cooler and much longer, in houses with better ventilation.

I could go on and on and on about the dangers of the current houses and buildings. It is more dangerous then ever. The only reason there are less deaths of fire fighters is because of the Incident Command System or basic planning use in a para military fashion.

134 posted on 11/03/2003 7:24:03 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: Pukin Dog
heroic no matter what that asshole (if the mods will allow me this) thinks

For assholes like this author, I think the mods will allow the line to extend past "sh!t for brains."

135 posted on 11/03/2003 7:27:05 PM PST by r9etb
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To: browngal
he is right. some fire fighters have been known to set fires just so they can be called heroes when they start working on the scene.

Wasn't that the plot of the movie 'Backdraft?'

136 posted on 11/03/2003 7:27:47 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: pageonetoo
Go buy a book from a fire academy and read it, you'll see that the physical edurance and work required to be a FF would break your back.
137 posted on 11/03/2003 7:27:47 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
It's almost pointless to stand and scream at the sky(the bulk of posters here.) They simply are being too emotional to comprehend subtlety in this matter and therefore make poor partners in intellectual exchange regarding how heroes are defined and what separates dangerous professions from heroic professions.
138 posted on 11/03/2003 7:31:20 PM PST by Skywalk
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To: manic4organic
Agreed. It takes a special person, clean and honest, to be a firefighter.

139 posted on 11/03/2003 7:31:34 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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To: Skywalk
Have you ever dragged a person out of a burning building with smoke filling the rafters ready to flashover??? Do you know what flashover is??? Do you have any idea what the mental and emotional toll on a firefighter is who see death weekly??? Most firefighters being hired today are also paramedics, wrap that around you pointee head.
140 posted on 11/03/2003 7:33:53 PM PST by Porterville (American First, Human being Second; liberal your derivative lifestyle will never be normalized.)
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