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4 Found Shot To Death On a Highway (Illegals in Chandler, AZ)
KABC7 - Los Angeles ^ | November 4th, 2003

Posted on 11/04/2003 12:18:14 PM PST by Sabertooth

4 Found Shot To Death On a Highway

ARIZONAAuthorities are combing the desert looking for clues and suspects after a deadly shooting spree in Arizona. It happened on Interstate-10 near the town of Casa Grande Southeast of Phoenix.

The Arizona Department of Public Safety says all the victims and people who have been arrested appear to be illegal immigrants. The shooting occurred as some of the vehicles were moving down the highway. There is speculation that the shooting may have involved rival smuggling operations.

Details are very sketchy so far, but four people are dead and three others wounded. The Arizona Department Of Public Safety says Highway Patrol Officers received a call about a wounded man next to the highway. There were other reports of people running into the desert. When they arrived they found three bodies inside the pickup. One was lying on the ground outside the pickup. Two victims were found hiding under a tree nearby.

A few miles away from the accident border patrol agents tracked down four people. It is not known at this time, if they are suspects in the shooting or ran into the desert to escape harm. Sheriff's SWAT officers in an armored personnel carrier showed up to help guard and transport the four men. According to a spokesman for the Department Of Public Safety, all the people appear to be illegal immigrants.

The border patrol would only confirm for ABC7 Eyewitness News that its agents were on the scene and involved in the investigation. However DPS spokesman Frank Valenzuela tells Eyewitness News that the shootings occurred as the vehicles were moving down the highway.

A van blacked out windows and two of them broken out was found a short distance away. Valenzuela says a Ford Explorer was stopped near Phoenix with several people in it including a wounded woman.

Gila River Tribal Police found the van and there were five or six people running from it. There is a search underway in the desert for any other victims or people connected to the incident. The Penal County Sheriff's Department is now leading the investigation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: casagrandemassacre; illegalimmigration
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1 posted on 11/04/2003 12:18:15 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Victoria Delsoul; Marine Inspector; FITZ; Ajnin; Pelham; Travis McGee; sarcasm; harpseal; RonDog; ..





((((((growl)))))

2 posted on 11/04/2003 12:19:55 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
First the plight of illegal immigrants... now we have armed invaders. Maybe we should simply mine our borders...
3 posted on 11/04/2003 12:22:40 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Sabertooth
When I first heard this I figured it would be illegal aliens. This is one of the reasons we don't need amnesty.
4 posted on 11/04/2003 12:26:07 PM PST by NRA2BFree (ISLAM: The religion of peace, love, dismemberment and murder!)
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To: Hodar
A very high wall that runs 30 feet deep into the ground and snipers in towers, lot's of them.

5 posted on 11/04/2003 12:28:57 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: Hodar
Maybe we should simply mine our borders.

LOL!! I like your idea.

6 posted on 11/04/2003 12:30:41 PM PST by NRA2BFree (ISLAM: The religion of peace, love, dismemberment and murder!)
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To: Sabertooth; Victoria Delsoul; Marine Inspector; FITZ; Ajnin; Pelham; Travis McGee; sarcasm; ...
Thanks to more than seven decades of lunatic left-wing "liberals'" ownership, operation and control of every lever of "our" feral-gummint's power to protect, armed criminal alien invaders and the mass-murder of those who displease them are now the norm.

God save my America!

7 posted on 11/04/2003 12:30:41 PM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NRA2BFree
It will be spun into a reason for amnesty. They will say that "this will all end" if only we will just abandon all our laws, all our borders, etc. The usual "let us invade your country or you're all racists" crap.
8 posted on 11/04/2003 12:31:27 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
The head Mexican Senor Fox is visiting Phoenix today. Marine Inspector posted at another forum and said that children were there singing for Fox, and he asked them to stop and had them removed. Hard to believe he was so rude.
9 posted on 11/04/2003 12:34:00 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Sabertooth
Well, at least there's a wounded survivor to tell what happened. Then again, she may not spill the frijoles at all if her tongue was cut out.

Leni

10 posted on 11/04/2003 12:34:21 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Brian Allen
Any of the BP types in your ping list can tell you this is the ordinary day-to-day mayhem they see on the Mexican side and to some extent on this side of the border.

The difference now is that the smugglers consider the U.S. to be weak, so they no longer fear something like having an ordinary shootout on I-10. Thirty years ago they wouldn't have dared.

And that means that this will become the norm in the U.S.

Just like Mexico. Isn't "biculturalism" grand?

11 posted on 11/04/2003 12:37:14 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Sabertooth
I miss your pictures of Michelle Malkin, btw. Can't you find a way to work her into this thread?
12 posted on 11/04/2003 12:38:39 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Clemenza
You just did, she also follows the standard of if someone mentions her post a picture.

13 posted on 11/04/2003 12:42:20 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: Sabertooth
Headed for Painesville, Ohio no doubt.
14 posted on 11/04/2003 12:43:23 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: janetgreen
Not hard to believe at all.
He hates this country and hates our gutts.
He wants amnesty so he can ship more in here and collect even more $18 billion for his own pockets.
15 posted on 11/04/2003 12:45:14 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: Sabertooth

Click here or on the pic for the full article

16 posted on 11/04/2003 12:46:37 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: mabelkitty
Is that where they've been settling around here?

Call the INS.
17 posted on 11/04/2003 12:49:49 PM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: janetgreen
Hard to believe he was so rude

He's a Caudillo, albeit a modern one. Showing stern disregard for other's feelings will, to his mindset, show that he is strong and they are weak and insignificant.

Mexico is a primitive society based on aggression and unfeeling force. The laws are a farce that everyone ignores. Only a cycle of intimidation and tribute make the society operate (I won't say "work" because that implies some sort of civil success).

And Fox is on the ropes. Because of PRI control of his legislature, such as it is, he cannot change things significantly. So he has one hope, and one hope only: get the United States to change. That's probably easier than changing Mexico. All he has to do is allege racism by the Americans and that's it. They roll over and grovel to him.

Pretty amazing that he can get away with crap like that, considering his Irish-Spanish ancestry. Not exactly a Mestizo himself.

18 posted on 11/04/2003 12:51:22 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Sabertooth
Illegal aliens are the hardest working and most honest people on the face of the earth - this cant be true - I wont believe it. Freeper paulklenk has said so in this post

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1014509/posts

So if you believe freeper paulklenk - that illegals are just honest hardworking and deserved citizens of the US then you cant believe this post that they might break our laws and murder each other - it just doesnt make sense. Oh man, I am questioning my metrosexual-lilly white-liberal elitistness.
19 posted on 11/04/2003 1:01:39 PM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Sabertooth
Illegal aliens are the hardest working and most honest people on the face of the earth - this cant be true - I wont believe it. Freeper paulklenk has said so in this post

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1014509/posts

So if you believe freeper paulklenk - that illegals are just honest hardworking and deserved citizens of the US then you cant believe this post that they might break our laws and murder each other - it just doesnt make sense. Oh man, I am questioning my metrosexual-lilly white-liberal elitistness.
20 posted on 11/04/2003 1:02:15 PM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: Regulator
It will be spun into a reason for amnesty. They will say that "this will all end" if only we will just abandon all our laws, all our borders, etc. The usual "let us invade your country or you're all racists" crap.

You're probably right. Does Fox want us to have open borders from now on? He's going to be in NM tomorrow, visiting at the invitation of governor Richardson. This is probably going to cost us.

21 posted on 11/04/2003 1:04:13 PM PST by NRA2BFree (ISLAM: The religion of peace, love, dismemberment and murder!)
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To: Regulator
The laws are a farce that everyone ignores.

Mexicans live with this farce in Mexico, and bring this attitude with them to America. Our government rolls out the red carpet to them despite the fact that they break our laws. I think that makes our laws a farce too, only American citizens have to follow the law, not illegal aliens.

22 posted on 11/04/2003 1:04:29 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Sabertooth
These thugs are all the same
They always mistake compassion for weakness
And then exploit the opening..

In the case of the USA and its liberals..
They are not mistaken

The illegal invaders will continue their exploitation
Until they are stopped by a firm hand...
The longer we wait the more ruthless we will have to become
in order to be effective...

And the more unpalatable the action will be to the masses

And all the more the liberal socialist anti American media
bent upon our destruction
will also exploit the issue...

Making America an easy takeover...
23 posted on 11/04/2003 1:05:08 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Sabertooth
The Penal County Sheriff's Department is now leading the investigation.

It's spelled Pinal

24 posted on 11/04/2003 1:09:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
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To: hollywood
AZ ping.
25 posted on 11/04/2003 1:25:48 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: sasafras; paulklenk
Aren't you supposed to ping someone if you dis them? I don't know what your previous discussion was, but I'd agree that most illegals are hardworking, and keep to themselves. I have met and gotten to know many, and yes, they are human. Most are honest--just like most American citizens are honest and hardworking--except for the glaring fact that they BROKE OUR LAWS to get here. Because of that, they don't deserve to remain here, unless they lay some kind of penance.
26 posted on 11/04/2003 1:33:32 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Markets go up, markets go down. The country goes on. -- Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Sabertooth
Since infiltrating the United States is not currently treated as a crime, it is unclear to me whether or not this will be treated as a crime, either.

Does anyone happen to know which laws we are selectively enforcing today?
27 posted on 11/04/2003 1:34:13 PM PST by Imal (After Iraq, let's liberate California.)
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To: MNLDS
lay = "pay" some kind of penance.
28 posted on 11/04/2003 1:34:56 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Markets go up, markets go down. The country goes on. -- Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NRA2BFree
Does Fox want us to have open borders from now on?

Only to Mexico. Everyone else is supposed to obey the rules...just not them.

29 posted on 11/04/2003 2:08:03 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Sabertooth
Doing the job that Americans are not allowed to do?
30 posted on 11/04/2003 2:14:51 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: janetgreen
I heard the other day Fox was coming and wondered why he was not greeted with protests?
31 posted on 11/04/2003 2:15:51 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: janetgreen
Mexicans live with this farce in Mexico, and bring this attitude with them to America

That's really the primary reason I'm so opposed to what is happening now. It's one thing to talk about a steady, controlled stream, with a hard line assimilation process. But with millions coming, assimilation is impossible. And so the ideas and attitudes in our government will shift towards theirs, as they elect more and more of their ethnicity to public office. Note that the peculiar "compelling interest" that Justice O'Connor asserts we have in ethnic diversity turbocharges this process, propelling far more Mexicans into American government then their electoral numbers warrant.

And so we get the corruption and incivility of Mexico in our city and state governments. Think of it as a virus in the body politic...

32 posted on 11/04/2003 2:15:51 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Bikers4Bush
A very high electrified (think bug zapper) chain-link, barbed wire fence, built by the illegals themselves when they're caught. When the fence is done, deposit them on the other side of it and turn on the juice. End of problem.
33 posted on 11/04/2003 2:21:40 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: janetgreen
El jefe Fox should be presented with the four dead bodies and thanked appropriately for his "gifts" to our country.
34 posted on 11/04/2003 2:24:43 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Sabertooth
It happened on Interstate-10 near the town of Casa Grande Southeast of Phoenix. Actually it happened a lot closer to the edge of metro Phoenix. Casa Grande is a good 20 minutes drive south, even allowing for the 75mph speed limit.
35 posted on 11/04/2003 2:25:10 PM PST by Sabatier
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To: Sabatier
it happened a lot closer to the edge of metro Phoenix

No kidding? Where? On the reservation near the Gila River? North of there? Or between the rest stop and Riggs Rd.?

36 posted on 11/04/2003 2:31:15 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: Regulator
All he (Fox) has to do is allege racism by the Americans and that's it.

That would be rather hypocritical of Fox considering the fact that he heads a country that is 93% Latino. You can't find very many countries that are as racist as Mexico.

37 posted on 11/04/2003 2:40:35 PM PST by usadave
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To: Sabertooth
Hmmmmmmm. Rival smugglers. I was not aware that the demand for strawberry pickers was at such an all-time hi.

Do you suppose if this continues the price of produce will go up?

If these idiots stayed on their own side of the border they'd be alive today.
38 posted on 11/04/2003 3:09:41 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Regulator
Here in San Antonio TX the city telephone messages are set up in spanish first then english. When I called the Board of Elections this morning to see where I go to cast my vote, the spanish message came on before the english.
39 posted on 11/04/2003 3:11:02 PM PST by Army Girl
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To: Bikers4Bush
Don't bother calling INS. The head of the new INS (Zigler) parents were both illegals. We know where his priorities lie.

Thanks George.
40 posted on 11/04/2003 3:12:18 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: HiJinx; Sabatier
I heard on the new the Riggs Rd. exit. I'm just north of there at the Chandler Road exit and they evidently locked down some of the schools in the Ahwatukee area when some the District called and told the schools they were looking for the shooters.

My daughter brought a letter home from school explaining what had happened.

Last I heard the incident involved coyotes, kidnappings and illegals but I still haven't hear all the details yet.
41 posted on 11/04/2003 3:39:08 PM PST by valleygal
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To: HiJinx; Sabatier
Sorry, I obviously meant Chandler Blvd. I think I still had Riggs RD stuck in my head.
42 posted on 11/04/2003 3:41:20 PM PST by valleygal
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To: madfly; HiJinx; janetgreen; FITZ; Tancredo Fan; gubamyster; SandRat; WRhine; joesnuffy; B4Ranch; ...
Illegal Immigration Ping.
43 posted on 11/04/2003 3:51:20 PM PST by Missouri
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To: sasafras
There are numerous Freepers who say that they would like illegals deported but when someone like a Tancredo comes along and actually wants to do it, they smear him and then cry that its against the law to put troops at the border. I'm not going to name names put we all know who there are.
44 posted on 11/04/2003 4:00:44 PM PST by Missouri
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To: NRA2BFree
When I first heard this I figured it would be illegal aliens. This is one of the reasons we don't need amnesty.

Well, some posters on this forum would say if we simply granted amnesty, there would be no more illegals.

(Is that circular, or what?)

45 posted on 11/04/2003 4:11:47 PM PST by wheelgunguru
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To: Regulator
I just don’t see how anyone with a SCRAP of sanity can buy off on “multi-culturist.” Or “diversity” or “diverse cultures interacting” or any of the other BS communist agenda attempts at Balkanization of the u.S. No one else does it. Do we see the Japanese diluting their culture by, oh …. let’s say… importing a bunch of Nigerians? NO. Do we see the American Native Nations selling off land to… ummmm….. Libya? NO. Do we see MEXICO paying the medical bills for Germans that are pouring over their southern border?? ? ? HELL NO. And who could possibly not recall the noble efforts at Diversity by the Democratic Republic of the Congo at educating their grade school age children on the fascinating cultural traits of Norwegians ? ? ?

Why? Because each of the above mentioned mono-cultures, Japanese, N. American, Mexican, Congolese, all have a singleure race-oriented culture and they do not commonly mistake well rounded education for cultural / racial suicide.

However, in the sick and twisted minds of the somewhat less than brain-dead liberal (communist) agenda democrats, this is just what the western European culture MUST have or we are raciest murders that would prefer watching children under the age of 6 slowly die of starvation. They are so sick in the head that I doubt these individuals would be satisfied if all white USA citizens leave their homes with nothing but a Tee-shirt on their back and they could first run multi-decades of work into the ground and totally pi$$ away anything of one scrap of value, Rhodesian style. This includes ALL culture, truthful history and proper sense of values. Then there is the encouragement of cross-race “families” that are little more than glorified high school style prolonged “dating.” These usually end with the spawning of crying incoveninet children that comprise a vast majority of currently trendy statical categories. This is gleefully referred to by the dumber-than-river-rocks crowd of “liberals” (communists) as “modern, diverse and culturally expansive.” My name for it implies an origin consisting of warm, steaming fertilizer.

But hey, it’s Pee-Cee and it will shut up a pinheaded illegal. Hell, it might get them to vote!
46 posted on 11/04/2003 4:20:22 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: TLI
Correction from "Rhodesian style" to Zimbabwe Style
47 posted on 11/04/2003 4:24:24 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: taxed2death
Ziglar is gone. The new 'new guy' is a former Cuban 'boat person' by the name of Aguirre.
48 posted on 11/04/2003 5:34:16 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Army Girl
Here in San Antonio TX the city telephone messages are set up in spanish first then english. >>>>>>>>>


Not much better up here in East TX......

Local cable removed two 'English' channels......replaced by two spanish channels, in the cable package, for ALL to pay for.

I also noticed some *skanky* lawyer in Dallas now runs his TV ads in spanish on the english channels.

If Bush thinks mexico is sooo great, I wish he'd buy a ranch there........rather than allowing TX (USA) to be invaded & turned into mexico.
49 posted on 11/04/2003 5:42:59 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: TLI
Thanks for saying what many Americans are thinking.
50 posted on 11/04/2003 7:21:15 PM PST by janetgreen
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