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Politicized Memo Creates Row
Washington Post ^ | November 6, 2003 | Dana Priest

Posted on 11/06/2003 4:53:36 AM PST by Peach

Edited on 11/06/2003 5:08:27 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

A barely contained partisan squabble over assessing blame for the apparent failure to find chemical and biological weapons in Iraq broke into the open yesterday when Republican senators said they had a memorandum indicating their Democratic colleagues were preparing a campaign to disparage a Senate committee report on the quality of prewar intelligence before it is even completed.

A senior Democrat countered that Republicans had probably stolen the memo from a trash can or a computer file.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004memo; committee; intelligence; rockefeller; senate; treason
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1 posted on 11/06/2003 4:53:36 AM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
I notice Priest didn't quote the part of the memo that had national security being a secondary consideration...Gee, wonder why the Post didn't just print the entire contents of the memo so its readers could decide for themselves?

Cause then maybe the readers would be thinking the same thing I am? That this is treason...

2 posted on 11/06/2003 4:56:45 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Peach
bump to see how the liars cover(UP) the story...
3 posted on 11/06/2003 4:57:51 AM PST by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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To: mewzilla
The periodicals are harboring terrorists.
4 posted on 11/06/2003 4:58:55 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Peach
Rockefeller, in a released statement, said the memo "was likely taken from a waste basket or through unauthorized computer access."

No denial at all, just that it has been discovered. Interesting.

5 posted on 11/06/2003 4:58:56 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: mewzilla
Gee, wonder why the Post didn't just print the entire contents of the memo so its readers could decide for themselves?

The same reason they didn't print the Rumsfeld memo a couple of weeks ago -- so they could selectively quote from it to portray the picture they want to present rather than just report the news.

6 posted on 11/06/2003 4:59:43 AM PST by kevkrom (This tag line for rent)
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To: All
I was surprised the Post mentioned Sean Hannity.

I was not surprised the Post did not mention how the Rats are willing to compromise national security in order to defeat the president.
7 posted on 11/06/2003 5:00:58 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Hm, The Memo crosses the WaPo's radar screen.

I heard Fox and Friends promo Kit Bond coming up to discuss shortly.
8 posted on 11/06/2003 5:01:41 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: Peach
The Dims really stepped on their weenies with this one. Ye Gads they have been doing that a lot.

It hasn't been tabulated, and there is no way to verify it, but I am sure that a significant portion of Arnold's votes were solidified in the aftermath of the "open mike" incident in which the Dims discussed worsening the state's fiscal woes for partisan gain.

This is exactly the kind of crapola that pisses people off the worse. Lying is one thing. Politicians are expected to lie and for the most part, most do. Those who don't are still accused of lying and since most Americans have neither the time or energy to figure out who is lying they generally assume they all are.

But this REALLY stings people. This tells the voters that the Dims are cynically playing them for chumps -- and no one, especially a chump, likes to find out he has been played for a chump.
9 posted on 11/06/2003 5:03:59 AM PST by Ronin (Qui docet discit!)
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To: Peach
And notice how this is characterized as a "squabble", kind of a minimizing word.
10 posted on 11/06/2003 5:04:16 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Wesley Clark is w/Couric....planning to give HIS plan, according to promos...I went to FOX to keep my coffee down.
11 posted on 11/06/2003 5:15:34 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Carolinamom
Clark is too hard to take first thing in the morning. And his plan will be impossible to follow as he waffles so much.

So glad to see his poll numbers tanking. hehehe
12 posted on 11/06/2003 5:18:22 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: cyncooper
Yeah,... and they indicate that the "squable" is over prewar intelligence - NOT the fact that the "squable" is over Dems using intel for political purposes. Fargin Icehole bastages.
13 posted on 11/06/2003 5:19:09 AM PST by Principled
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To: Peach
Kit Bond says that "some of his colleagues" on the intelligence committe HAVE leaked information to reporters. I want NAMES.
14 posted on 11/06/2003 5:20:41 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: Carolinamom
Man - leaking Intelligence Committee information should be such an offense that resignation is all but inevitable. But I guess that only applies to the Republicans as the Rats are above the law.
15 posted on 11/06/2003 5:23:41 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: cyncooper
Maybe this is why Senator Graham is leaving the Senate.

His whole focus was on "INTEL" and accusations about deception by President Bush. He was a tool, with supposed credibility that has kept the drum beat going, planting the seeds for getting an "independent counsel". Maybe even leaking parts and pieces of "INTEL".

The peak was the Kennedy speech on the floor outright calling President Bush a liar.

Now it seems that this supposed memo has been the plan for a long long time.

"Joe Wilson" also seems to fit into the "strategy". Maybe the accused "leaking" was crying wolf to divert attention about who is really leaking.

Just listening to Senator Bond, I believe that he is on to some in the committee, but not going to play all his cards.

Looks like this "memo" getting leaked takes the "air" out of these "liars" getting that "Independent Counsel" they planned to get.

16 posted on 11/06/2003 5:26:50 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Peach
the memo has not been denied.

They are only sorry they got caught red handed, not about the content of the memo.


Rockefeller must resign over this or the one responsible must resign. A democrat must pay for this.

Remember the democrats are the MINORITY PARTY. They do not control, Republicans need to get over this wimpy club attitude. Politics in the senate is now a full contact blood sport, live with it. (in other words, act like you have some testicles or get out of the way for those who do.)

Where is the majority leader? MIA?
17 posted on 11/06/2003 5:29:13 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Principled
These buzzards are praying for the day there is no Republican Party or any other party so they can adopt their own constitution so only one party is legal.
18 posted on 11/06/2003 5:29:28 AM PST by oyez (blank)
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To: longtermmemmory
Agreed that Rockefeller or whomever is responsible should resign. Will the Republicans push the issue? Unlikely.

We've never fought or defended ourselves appropriately. Don't know why. It's one of the great mysteries of the universe.
19 posted on 11/06/2003 5:31:41 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Just mythoughts
You could very well be right about Graham. He is at the top of the list, along with Rockefeller.
20 posted on 11/06/2003 5:32:08 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Rangel is now calling for rumsfeld to resign. Now discovered and exposed, the democrats launch their version of shock and awe. (aka whine and cry)
21 posted on 11/06/2003 5:33:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: oyez
You know, if not for talk radio, internet, and FNC there may soon have been only one party.

Imagine having 95% control of all newspaper, television, and periodical media (before talk radio began). Imagine further that the same group that had this control also had control of both houses of Congress for 50 years.

Does the break on control of congress coincide adequately with the break of control of media to conclude a causal relationship? Can it be said that dems rules only when they ruled the media?

Interesting question. jmho

22 posted on 11/06/2003 5:36:12 AM PST by Principled
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To: Peach
leaking Intelligence Committee information should be such an offense that resignation is all but inevitable...

I agree. This is not only a "leak," in fact, but a leak of a plot that is certainly unworthy of any elected official, and should be grounds for resignation or even removal.

23 posted on 11/06/2003 5:37:30 AM PST by livius
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To: Peach
Who wrote the memo, was it a draft or final, who received the memo, and how was the memo obtained. Also, who is being more political, the writer of the memo - or those using it now to bash their opposition?
24 posted on 11/06/2003 5:38:39 AM PST by familyofman
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To: longtermmemmory
Saxby Chambliss yesterday on Hannity's radio show, Named Daschle as the probable originator of the memo.

The Niger/Wilson/Plame confession in the memo hasn't yet been fully grasped...or has it?

Best, Will

25 posted on 11/06/2003 5:40:47 AM PST by ptrey
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To: livius
... of all involved. (bet the dems would line up to kick out hitlery?) This reminds me of the nazis actions in the PreWWII German parlament.
26 posted on 11/06/2003 5:41:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: familyofman
A plot has been discovered that the Senate Intelligence Committee minority party is focusing more on taking down the president than our national security, and you are asking who is being more political - the writer of the memo or those in the majority party who are upset by the plot.

I do not understand the difficulty you are having in deciding who is being more political.
27 posted on 11/06/2003 5:42:40 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: ptrey
we need to find a dem on the intelligence committee and make him resign the committee if not resign the senate. This will make dashel a further joke and diminish the unitity of the minority party.
28 posted on 11/06/2003 5:43:23 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
This bunch has been after "Rummy" from the "git go".

Hillary's generals were all over the tube crying about how bad the war was going and trashing "Rummy".

This bunch has yet to blame Saddam, terrorists, or the killers for our loved ones getting blown up, that is very telling.

So WHY, ok so they do want their power back, that is a given, but the complaint within the "memo" and everytime this bunch whines it is always about the "secret" White House. So if the White House is keeping secrets from them maybe they have something to "FEAR". The US against them maybe be a whole lot bigger than France, Germany, Russia and the terrorists.
29 posted on 11/06/2003 5:44:02 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Peach
The spin is breathtaking and begins in the very first sentence.
30 posted on 11/06/2003 5:44:21 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Peach
Rockerfeller and this unnamed Staffer DO NOt serve
the interest of the United States they serve the Despotic
and deceptive Democratic Party.Do agree this is Treason.
They should be expelled from any Senate Office.
31 posted on 11/06/2003 5:45:30 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: OldFriend
Good morning, OldFriend. It is breathtaking, isn't it? And I don't think the story has been reported AT ALL on any of the other network channels.

We're headed out for nearly 2 weeks tomorrow and I'm crushed I'll be missing out on the various aspects of this story. Timing is everything...
32 posted on 11/06/2003 5:45:54 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
I also think that someone else wrote "old Kennedy's" speech, it has an "itch" tone to it. Seems like quite a price was required for that convention in Boston for next summer.

33 posted on 11/06/2003 5:46:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: longtermmemmory
According to the dems, the real issue is how the republicans got the memo.

Breathtaking in their audacity.

It's up to us to keep after the democrats and not allow them to get off the hook.

Please call the US Capitol and make the point that Rockefeller needs to resign from the Senate 1-877-762-8762

34 posted on 11/06/2003 5:47:33 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: StonyBurk
Ditto that.
35 posted on 11/06/2003 5:48:10 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: OldFriend
Will call that # at 9:00; thanks for providing it.
36 posted on 11/06/2003 5:48:49 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Let us not forget that Zell Miller was also on this morning. He pretty much declared the Senate Rates to but treasonous for political gain.

F&F was bad news for Rats this morning.
37 posted on 11/06/2003 5:49:24 AM PST by bert (Don't Panic!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Yes, this is certainly much more serious than a "partisan squabble." I know the Dems would like to reduce it to this, but I bet that privately, some of them (including certain Senators) are really sweating right now. I hope the Republicans can keep the media from minimizing or burying this.

And I say this not only for "partisan" reasons, but because I think this really compromises US security and calls into question the handling of the intelligence we so desperately need right now.
38 posted on 11/06/2003 5:49:38 AM PST by livius
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To: Just mythoughts
The dem world view must be based on containment and perpetual conflict to keep in power (ala 1984). It is never based on victory. (see Jimmy carter and his failure in the cold war.) The democrat party is exposed as a "controversy" party not a solution party. The democrat party IS part of the world's problem.

Additionally, on the world stage the democrat party is trying to convice international leaders that they matter. Hard to get illegal campaign contributions if the chineese believe you have no power. The rest on the socialists in teh world realize the danger their alies are in in the usa (remember nancy pelosi is an admitted socialist) they will help any way they can.

This is serious, and the republicans better act on this.
I just want to scream "DO SOMETHING, ACT!" no more "get along, move on" barbara streisand.
39 posted on 11/06/2003 5:50:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Ronin
and no one, especially a chump, likes to find out he has been played for a chump.

I wonder how Senator Roberts feels? Or if he realizes he has been played for a chump?

40 posted on 11/06/2003 5:50:48 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Carolinamom
Did Bond say what, if anything, he's prepared to do about it?
41 posted on 11/06/2003 5:51:30 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: livius
How to make rockefeller resign for one.

COMITTEE SECURITY NEED TO BE CHECKED NOW!!!

If you can leak a partisan memo, security is very weak.
42 posted on 11/06/2003 5:51:57 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: mathluv
Well, I see his new nickname is Patsy. That should tell him something.
43 posted on 11/06/2003 5:52:03 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; All
I was out of the room during the last part of his remarks, so I didn't catch anything about his plan for doing anything. Anybody here catch info imparted if any?
44 posted on 11/06/2003 5:54:12 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: mathluv
I called Robert's office yesterday morning and asked the woman how Robert's felt about being stabbed in the back by Rockefeller.

Told her I was horrified by the memo and that the dems put partisanship ahead of national security while our soldiers were in mortal danger.

Please call and ask Roberts to demand Rock be removed from the committee. Especially since it was revealed to have come from rock's office.

45 posted on 11/06/2003 5:55:29 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: livius
Yes, ditto to your thoughts. We need ALL senators working on intelligence matters, not politics. Now more than ever.
46 posted on 11/06/2003 5:56:30 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
"A plot has been discovered..."

That's a big jump there without answering the questions asked:
1.) Who wrote the memo
2.) Was it a draft or final copy
3.) Who was the memo distributed to (something I think needed for a plot is involvement & cooperation of others)
4.) Who & how was the memo obtained - illegal means to obtain a memo doesn't help the case for non-political (remember Watergate was only a petty theft)
Those that are attacking the demo memo are all putting it in terms of "get the dems" (political) rather than making it an issue of national security. When political terms are used to justify an investigation - it takes away from the argument that the memo was wrong (IMHO). If it is truly a national security issue that has everyone upset, then concentrate on national security & not the political party of the offender. Stick to the point of security, not politics & others will join, but to make it an issue of R vs D just lets it slip into the mud that is all too prevalent in DC. Concern for the country should trump concern for party - right?
47 posted on 11/06/2003 5:57:04 AM PST by familyofman
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To: familyofman
Concern for the country is EXACTLY the point.

I believe a Democrat gave a copy of that memo to Sean Hannity. He said we'd be shocked at who gave it to him. We'd hardly be surprised if it was a Republican.

The FACT that certain unknown Democrats are focusing more on taking down the president than intelligence, while we are at war and 2 years after suffering the worst attack on this country's soil, is unacceptable and as Zell Miller said, borders on treason.

You seem to think it is not a plot until we find out who wrote it and whether it was a draft or not, etc. It's a plot no matter who wrote it. It's a plot that was being focused on, whether it was a draft or not.

When police have two major cases they are focusing on, they have to decide where to put their manpower - split on both cases or focused on the case deemed more important. Mistakes can cost lives.

The same here. Focusing AT ALL on plotting how to take down the president, rather than national security can cost lives.
48 posted on 11/06/2003 6:05:08 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
What does it all matter

Bush and Rowe will continue to play Nice Nice with the democrats in congress
49 posted on 11/06/2003 6:05:19 AM PST by uncbob
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To: familyofman
I should have added that even Corzine (D)came quite close to admitting on FNC last night that whomever authorized that memo should resign from the Intelligence Committee.
50 posted on 11/06/2003 6:05:54 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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