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To: jamaksin
I need no "presupposition" other than the fact that for the TENTH TIME you have refused to answer what to me is a very easy question to address:

Do you think the cryptographers of 1941 were traitors? Did they help conceal (as you implied on the other thread) or "cover up" knowledge of the attack after the fact? You said this on the other thread. Be honest. Address this point and SCREW THE AKAGI! Address the issue. Answer the question.

If they were not traitors, do you think they were incompetent????

Why the hell are you avoiding these very simple questions? I can answer them both, easily! NO, and NO. Why are you afraid to do so?

Readers, I hope you you see why he will not answer these questions. He has staked out a position in which he accuses these honorable veterans of being in cahoots with FDR to "cover up" knowledge of an attack. IS THIS NOT TRUE? DO YOU NOT CLAIM THIS? IF NOT, SAY SO! DON'T REFER TO ANOTHER THREAD!!!

The only other option is if they were not dishonorable men, that they were incompetent, and didn't know what they were decrypting. IS THIS YOUR POSITION? WHY CAN YOU NOT ANSWER VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS??

32 posted on 11/06/2003 10:21:49 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
Larry,

So, again, is the AKAGI message a fraud or not?

Thank you.

36 posted on 11/06/2003 11:30:48 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: LS
It is the nature of intelligence work that projections must be made on the basis of partial knowledge -- and that often of uncertain provenance.

Consequently, the product and resultant decisions are, by definition, less than perfect.

Hindsight, however, is not shackled by such inconvenient bindings. Its purveyors have the luxury of kibitzing history.

To my mind, the "FDR let Pearl Harbor happen" are akin to the "Truman knew he didn't need to drop the bomb" revisionists and are peddling a line of historical crap.

Executive decisions must be made in real-time with less than perfect knowledge, and always within the context of the existing situation.

By any reasonable measure, FDR did his job. Kimmel, et al, didn't.

74 posted on 11/10/2003 9:36:03 AM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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