[billbears]

Not when one of the first acts of those men is to ignore previous agreements and practically force the Confederacy into defense of itself by sending armed forces to Sumter

[hirn_man]

Its the Confederates that ignored the previous agreements.

They didn't feel like they had to live up to the deal that their anscestors had made, and they tried to walk away. Pity they didn't heed the declaration of independence. You guys have memorized that document by heart. You know the part that says people normally shouldn't try to throw off their governments and form new ones because usually what they wind up with is worse than what they started out with.