[Some] Law Officers Oppose CCW Bill

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 11/7/03 | Scott Williams

[ninenot]

More of the loonies ID'd in print

[ninenot]

Bang!!

Please bang to your lists! Thanks.

[NonValueAdded]

Citing fears of increased gun violence ...

Lots of municipalities and states have enacted CCW. Is there any evidence in even a single instance where increased gun violence was a consequence? Aren't we at a point where the proper response to such concerns is "put up or shut up?"

[elbucko]

It is a strategic blunder, for those who favor the RKBA, to expect support from LEO's, either blue collar police or white collar district attorneys and Dept's of Justice. They've already got their guns. Why should you have one?

[Orangedog]

Bucher said he is most concerned that the proposed legislation would allow concealed weapons in vehicles, putting police officers at risk whenever they make a traffic stop.

If they feel that the job is too dangerous, then they should get into another line of work. I'm pretty sure that cops are told at the academy to assume that the driver of every car they pull over is armed. Taxpayers do not exist to make things "safe" for the police!

[Naspino]

I'm sure if a law is passed barring concealment that the criminals will stop carring them under their shirts. Thats how it works right?

[brewcrew]

"I'm a cop," he said. "I don't carry a gun off duty." = I'm an idiot.

[ninenot]

With the number of handguns NOW possessed by non-criminals in Wisconsin, the "wave of violence" should already be here, if there was one.

Hell, any idiot can put the gun in the glove-box or under the car-seat; cargo pants EASILY hide smaller handguns, and so do most winter jacket pockets.

Smoke and mirrors from these idiots, including the Waukesha DA, who carries when he wants to.

[ninenot]

Interestingly, the Waukesha Sheriff (Trawicki) is VERY supportive of CCW. Also a very active member of Safari Club. Good guy.

[ninenot]

About 5 years ago the police started putting their car at an angle on traffic stops. While stopped (speeding,) I asked the LEO why the hell the front end of his car was almost on the road and the back end was almost in the ditch, and the specifically said that it's to give them cover in case the detained driver came out of the car firing his/her weapon.

It's almost as though these bozos think WE DON'T KNOW THIS ALREADY.

[spunkets]

"Waukesha police Capt. Mike Babe said he would support that strategy. "We're opposed to putting any more guns on the streets," Babe said.

The guns aren't going to be placed on the street. The law would enable folks to bear arms as an effective defense againt criminal attack. Seems the good capt. has a problem grasping reality.

[CodeMonkey]

Rosch said he fears the proposed law would turn simple street fights into deadly violence.

Policetalk for, "the proles will actually be able to resist unlawful arrests!"

[spunkets]

County Board Chairman James Dwyer of Menomonee Falls"Dwyer said he opposes permitting concealed weapons because he believes it creates too much potential for increased gun violence. "The principle of it, I think, is a problem," he said."

The fundamental principle involved is that citizens have the right to choose an effective means of defense against criminal attacks that place the citizen in harms way. Chairman Dwyer has a problem with this principle. He should be voted out of office.

[RicocheT]

"I don't carry a gun off duty."

B.S., he can and does. This is just for public (idiots) consumption.

[ninenot]

He's the police CHIEF. He works, maybe, a 40-hour week. His Department works nights--not him.

[jmc813]

Prolly big-time drug warriors too.

[CWOJackson]

Oh Good...you pinged LeRoy over also.

[brewcrew]

Seems the good capt. has a problem grasping reality.

I'm assuming you use the word good rather loosely and, perhaps, just a bit sarcastically?

8^D

[ninenot]

Dwyer's an old-time Leftist, left over from the New Deal and only a little west of his ideological home, Milwaukee.

But who runs against him?

[Mr. Mojo]

"We're opening the door to problems," Big Bend Police Chief John Hefley

The "problem" of honest citizens have the ability to defend themselves and their loved ones? The "problem" of JBT cops not feeling quite as all-powerful anymore?