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Heheheh... pretty good review. He does a tremendous job of hacking apart that ridiculous review by the other guy. What a pile that was.

I haven't seen Matrix 3 yet. What makes me not want to see it is that there is something I "figured out" in the 2nd movie that doesn't seem to be in the 3rd. Several things that happened in the 2nd could ONLY happen if Zion were itself another layer of the matrix - Neo could not "zap" machines nor could Smith upload himself into Zion. My understanding is that Matrix 3 does -not- make Zion an aspect of the Matrix. If that's the case, it makes the 2nd movie even worse than it already was. I would've preferred the logic of the trilogy to be predictable and reasonably logical than to have it be unpredictable but make absolutely no bloody sense.

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To seriously 'critique' the Matrix series of movies, one should rent the Animatrix DVD or purchase it. It's a collection of anime type productions, from various producers that expand upon the Matrix storyline and dive into it and give it that human touch. He's right, M2 and I have yet to see M3, but in M2 the acting was off and was eye candy for the most part and plot development, I am sure, for M3.

Being a SCIFI buff and fan and also a full time computer geek, I think I understand the Matrix series of movies more so than the average person who is not fully computer literate.

It's hard to verbalize this into words here, but I am attempting to explain that there are certain underlying principles with computing and artificial intelligence that one day could mimic what occurred in the Matrix.

What excites me about the series is that for the first time on film based media for a large audience, the Wachowski (spelling) brothers (producers/writers) have attempted to throw the "what-if" scenario with regard to future technologies run amuck. It is simply their interpretation of what could happen.

Another movie series is somewhat similar, but is more violent and has definite, concise modes of action .. Definitive beginning and ends - That is the Terminator series of movies.

What is unique about the Matrix, to me, and to many others, is that every individual that watches the triology gets out of it exactly what their preconceived notions were with it.

Instead of a movie series based on certain cause and effect relationships, the Matrix challenges one to think in a philosophical sense and to ponder, in humanistic ways, what if? ....

What makes me not want to see it is that there is something I "figured out" in the 2nd movie that doesn't seem to be in the 3rd. Several things that happened in the 2nd could ONLY happen if Zion were itself another layer of the matrix - Neo could not "zap" machines nor could Smith upload himself into Zion.

EXACTLY!!! Welcome to the paradox of the entire series. Obviously there are barriers to the so-called "physical" world versus the world that exists in the "matrix".

Once one gets into the Matrix, the normal rules of physics do not apply. Except - For 'the one'. The 'one' is simply an errant subroutine or program, if you wish, a human brain developed via the virtual reality imposed upon the human incubators / energy producers that the machines rely upon for their energy needs.

Now, if there is a true phsyical world where one can become unplugged and free of the influence of the Matrix, this stands to reason that no matter how good a program may be, or programmers working on a project such as the AI that led to the War with the humans, then this is exposing the frailty of the human mind and failing to think of possible consequences of actions later deemed unacceptable to 'the machines' which led to the revolt.

M1 did a good job of identifying and personalizing this type of debate.

M2 did a good job of identifying what happens when people are released or freed from the bondage known as the Matrix. Human behavior is simply that, we make mistakes and will continue to find fault with ourselves. The machines however, and the keymaster and the oracle, and the mainframe that governs all aspects of the Matrix are interesting plot developments to me.

took away something else from the Matrix trilogy: it is a product of deeply confused people. They want it all. They want individualism and community; they want secularism and transcendence; they want the purity of committed love and the licentious fun of an S&M club; they want peace and the thrill of violence; they want God, but they want to design him on their own screens with their own programs by their own terms for their own needs, and having defined the divine on their own terms, they bristle when anyone suggests they have simply built a room with a mirror and flattering lighting. All three Matrix movies, seen in total, ache for a God. But they can’t quite go all the way. They’re like three movies about circular flat meat patties that can never quite bring themselves to say the word “hamburger.”

I don't agree with this. I don't believe they ache for a God. I believe they ache for independence and to face a foe so overwhelming that chances are they will perish in the end. I believe that what the producers were attempting to accomplish in the series is how lack of faith (spirituality), lack of discipline with regard to how the Matrix evolved, and the ensuing wars that occured (BE SURE TO WATCH ANIMATRIX!) are all perfect examples of the fallacies of what happens when Humankind attempts to manipulate the world around him with no regard to the outcome. It's a textbook example of no matter what you engineer, it's only as good as the thought processes that go into product development cycles and remember humans are invariably bound to failure more so than success.

I cant wait to see M3. I have high expectations of this conclusion (?) as we might see spin offs in other anime productions and maybe even another feature length movie that deals with the philosophical ramifications of human kind and technology. Humans, by design, are bound for failure left to their own devices. Given the choice, the humans decided to create machines to supplant tasks no longer suitable for human rapproach. The matrix was designed by humans, and is not a perfect system but "almost achieved" equillibrium. Why it failed is because of the very nature - Mankind created it, added failsafes, the AI from the mainframe adapted and coelesced alternative programs to deal with the safeguards (or opposite of) to deal with insurgent actions from the Matrix world, or the physical world.

Overall, the series opens up many people's imaginations and everyone gets what they take from the plot development.

For me, it's a very intriguing look at the future because one day, it's very feasible this could occur in real life.

Human nature is not perfect. Neither is AI and computing, hence the strike/balance one gets the feeling of while watching the series. Nothing is perfect in this world, the Matrix. Nothing is perfect in real life either.

MAtrix 3 is ok. Just saw it today. The graphics and cinematography is great, the invasion scene superb, the plot stupid, the acting insipid and a number of open plot lines. The review was spot on, I was rooting for Agent Smith (as I was during the first movie).

But this is no Star wars, the Matrix will not build up a cult following like 'Wars.

Why would what Neo can do necessarily be limited to within the Matrix?