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New York Post ^ | 11/08/03 | STEPHEN LYNCH

Posted on 11/08/2003 2:40:55 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

November 8, 2003 -- So much for the jobless recovery. The economy added 126,000 new jobs in October, according to the Department of Labor - twice as many as analysts expected, and the third month in a row that businesses added to their payrolls.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushrecovery; jobcreation; joblessrecovery

1 posted on 11/08/2003 2:40:55 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"Jobless recovery" has been the Rat mantra for a while now.

Wonder what their next one will be?

2 posted on 11/08/2003 2:55:58 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: kattracks
Ok, I'll post it.

Daschle deeply saddened (for the dem party)

3 posted on 11/08/2003 2:59:22 AM PST by tal hajus
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To: Mr. Mojo
They're like that Knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", that gets his limbs chopped off one by one but keeps right on taunting...it becomes comically absurd. Well, they've got a firm grip on the "I hate Bush" crowd anyway. It might be good for 1 state.
4 posted on 11/08/2003 3:06:02 AM PST by shteebo
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To: shteebo
keeps right on taunting...it becomes comically absurd.

Like the protectionist freepers who've been saying that we'll never get jobs without raising import taxes.  However, we may start seeing the the doomers claiming credit for the victory like Dick Gephardt saying that the recovery was caused by the Democrat's good tax-cuts in spite of the Republican bad tax-cuts.

5 posted on 11/08/2003 3:53:13 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
"...like Dick Gephardt saying that the recovery was caused by the Democrat's good tax-cuts in spite of the Republican bad tax-cuts."

LOL, well if he can pull that off, he's a hell of a politician. Personally, I can't remember Gephardt ever saying anything remotely persuasive, which is a huge deficiency for a would-be President.
6 posted on 11/08/2003 4:25:21 AM PST by shteebo
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To: kattracks
Isn't this about the time of year that cash register operators are added by stores for Christmas season? If that's what we call a "job", then it isn't much of a recovery, is it?
7 posted on 11/08/2003 4:37:55 AM PST by The Duke
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To: expat_panama
Will most of these jobs be here after Christmas? I doubt it. The long term jobs in manufacturing lost for the 37th straight month. Wave bye-bye to the recovery after what little money peole have left runs out.
8 posted on 11/08/2003 4:54:07 AM PST by raybbr
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To: The Duke
Isn't this about the time of year that cash register operators are added...

The data are "Seasonal Adjusted", which means we're talking about creating more of those $60,000/year high paying software jobs that we thought were all going to India.


Photos representing the workforce - Digital Imagery? copyright 2001 PhotoDisc, Inc.
 

Data extracted on: November 8, 2003 (7:46:21 AM)

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Series Id:           LNS12000000
Seasonal Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status:  Employed
Type of data:        Number in thousands
Age:                 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1997 128298 128298 128891 129143 129464 129412 129822 130010 130019 130179 130653 130679  
1998 130726 130807 130814 131209 131325 131244 131329 131390 131986 131999 132280 132602  
1999 133078 132860 132943 132969 133266 133424 133432 133540 133709 133974 134287 134497  
2000 136609(1) 136637 136678 137312 136576 136953 136489 136644 136908 137078 137288 137620  
2001 137846 137648 137763 137353 137036 136869 137006 136256 136858 136370 136218 136067  
2002 135791 136450 136143 136196 136487 136383 136343 136757 137312 136988 136542 136439  
2003 137536(1) 137408 137348 137687 137487 137738 137478 137625 137573 138014      
1 : Data affected by changes in population controls in January 2000 and January 2003.

BTW, when you look at total employment since July, we've gained 536,000 new jobs.


10 posted on 11/08/2003 5:02:10 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: raybbr
"Wave bye-bye to the recovery"

Would "bye-bye" go good with ketchup?

 

11 posted on 11/08/2003 5:06:28 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Would "bye-bye" go good with ketchup?

Yep. They'll teach you all about that when you're retrained for a McJob at the drive-thru window. It comes right after the lesson about asking "Do you want fries with that?"

Consumer debt increases in Sept. by largest amount since January

The new jobs added last month mostly were in lower-paying industries such as retail and temporary employment firms. Average weekly earnings in those sectors are $366 and $318 respectively, said John A. Challenger, chief executive officer of Challenger, Gray and Christmas, an employment research and recruiting firm. The national average is $521 per week." (Source)

Consumers can't afford very much debt on a WalMart wage.

There is no reason to believe that the debt-inflated service employment bubble is sustainable.
Especially with low-wage service sector jobs.

12 posted on 11/08/2003 8:33:44 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: expat_panama
The data are "Seasonal Adjusted", which means we're talking about creating more of those $60,000/year high paying software jobs that we thought were all going to India.

That's what I heard too. On Fox News, they said the data did not factor in holiday seasonal hiring.

There have been more "real" jobs showing up on job boards in this area just in the last couple of weeks. Noticeably more.

Sorry, gloom and doomers. :)

13 posted on 11/08/2003 8:39:27 AM PST by Allegra (CBS has canceled this tagline. It was "not due to controversy." Tom Daschle is disappointed.)
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To: Willie Green
Goollly!   Here we have the latest  BLS figures showing total employment at the highest level since the dawn of mankind (maybe before that too), and people complain about not loosing a $60,000/year software job to outsourcing!.  Some people would complain if you hanged them with a new rope.

14 posted on 11/08/2003 8:45:11 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
There's more substantive and objective reporting regarding the deglinging quality of employment on this thread.

But yesterday's report showed that income growth was tapering off without any growth in jobs. The yearly rate of wage gains dropped dramatically in the past two years from more than 4 percent to 2.4 percent — the lowest in a decade. The increase in take-home pay provided by President Bush's tax cuts served mostly to mask the marked downtrend in wage income, economists said....
"This time around, however, it is an indication of structural change in the labor markets. Businesses can no longer afford the costly burden of health and pension benefits."

There's no doubt that Karl Rove is so desperate for good news that he's sent out pages and pages of talking points to hype this report.

But it's a myopic kneejerk reaction that'll backfire in Dubya's face. People vote their pocketbooks, and they KNOW how much money they earn. All this hoopla about low quality McJobs will only fuel voter perception that Dubya is "out of touch" with reality, just like Papa Bush was.

"It's the economy, stupid."

15 posted on 11/08/2003 9:02:53 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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