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Mark Steyn: Irreconcilable differences
Chicago Sun-Times ^
| November 9, 2003
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 11/09/2003 5:45:51 AM PST by Tom D.
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Steyn gets it right again
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posted on
11/09/2003 5:45:51 AM PST
by
Tom D.
To: Tom D.
This can't be said too loud or too much. Many Americans are awake. Let's wake the rest.
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posted on
11/09/2003 5:53:57 AM PST
by
mathluv
To: Tom D.
BTTT and bookmarked.
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posted on
11/09/2003 6:08:32 AM PST
by
petuniasevan
(...it's as easy as 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841.)
To: Tom D.
"Steyn gets it right again "
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Absolutely.
Now if the Dems would get it.
To: petuniasevan
I don't believe the fact that French 68mm missiles were used to attack the site where Wolfowitz was staying was reported in the mainstream media. I wonder why? Also, of the mile and a half of folders the CIA has found on Iraqi intelligence every effort should be made to ferret out the information related to the Franco-Germano alliance with Saddam Hussein.
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11/09/2003 6:25:35 AM PST
by
gaspar
To: Tom D.
>>... the Israelis are the canaries in the coal mine
Remarkably insightful.
To: Tom D.
Great article. It was, however, published earlier in the week under a different title, and thereby posted on FR a couple of times. See
here and
here for previous discussion.
No criticism intended, Tom. No way you could have known if you hadn't seen the earlier ones.
To: Tom D.
Steyn has developed an excellent analysis and summary of the current state of American relations with its former friends and allies.
While I have observed the deteriorization of relations with our former allies, I had not had the opportunity to take a 30,000 foot view of it as Steyn has. IMO, his anaysis is dead on.
To: Tom D.
This is watered-down Steyn! (Self-censored? Say it ain't so, Mark!)
For the full Marky, complete with cockroaches, see the previously posted version:
Mark Steyn: Europeans are worse than cockroaches
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Posted by JohnHuang2 On 11/07/2003 2:52 AM CST with 18 comments
London Spectator ^ | Friday, November 7, 2003 | Mark Steyn <p>Heres a round-up of recent items from the worlds press you may have missed: Item 1: In the last two weeks, two Toronto-bound El Al flights had to be diverted to other airports after credible terrorist threats were made about using surface-to-air missiles against them. The Canadian transport minister, David Collenette, responded by suggesting that the Israeli airlines service to Pearson International Airport might be ended |
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posted on
11/09/2003 6:36:17 AM PST
by
Stultis
To: Joe Bonforte
I think that different newspapers change the titles of Steyn's columns. It does make it more difficult to search for.
Great Steyn column as always.
To: Joe Bonforte; Tom D.
I am certainly glad Tom posted it, because I missed the previous two postings and this is a great article.
I am sure there are other people who missed it previously as well.
To: Tom D.
Excellent analysis from Steyn, it's a very serious tone that he doesn't often take.
To: Stultis
To: Stultis
There are three possibilities:
- He changed it because the Sun-Times won't give him the same amount of space.
- He changed it because it contained a bit too much in terms of British idioms.
- The Sun-Times decided to edit it.
No matter what happened, he got his point across.
To: Stultis
The original articles certainly had much much more -- I highly recommend for others to go to the links given by you to get the full article.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016661/posts Here is just one excerpt/section from the full article that was omitted from this one:
"Tariq and co. are right to this extent: in the scheme of things, its not about Islamic terrorism. The Islamist goal is a planet on which their enemies are either dead or Muslim converts. Thats not going to happen. But Islamism is sufficiently disruptive to rupture permanently the old Western alliance. A lot of things have been said on both sides, but whats impressive about the Europeans is the palpable desire for America to fail, and Bush to fall.
I cant see that happening. On election day next November, the Democrats have no chance of taking back the House of Representatives and theyre all but certain to lose seats in the Senate. Bush is likely to be re-elected: with that 7.2 per cent growth in GDP, its hard even for the BBC to keep pretending Americas in the middle of some sort of recession; and whatever happens in Iraq its difficult to see the Democrats, running on a foreign policy of Cut & Run, being the beneficiaries. But the trouble with a war on terror is that the victories go unreported the plotters who get foiled, the bombers who dont make it through. All you hear about are the defeats. Lets say theres a terrorist attack in the US in the next 12 months and it kills several hundred people. On the one hand, you could argue that this shows the soundness of Bushs judgment in making terrorism the priority of his administration. On the other, you could argue that this proves he never learnt the lessons of the failures of 11 September. Knowing the American media, Id bet on the latter line being the one they settle on.
But other than that, the arguments over the next few years are going to be between conservatives between those who think it is worth pushing on with an ambitious programme to bring the Middle East within the non-deranged world, and those who figure thats doomed to fail and we should settle for something less. This project is in the national interest of the United States but, in the end, the fate of the worlds hyperpower does not hinge on it.
Now lets turn back to Europe. The Telegraphs Adam Nicolson got irritated the other day because Denis Boyles of Americas National Review had dismissed the Europeans as cockroaches. Boyles is wrong. The Europeans are not cockroaches. The cockroach is the one creature you can rely on to come crawling out of the rubble of the nuclear holocaust. Whereas the one thing that can be said with absolute confidence is that the Europeans will not emerge from under their own rubble.
Europe is dying. As Ive pointed out here before, it cant square rising welfare costs, a collapsed birthrate and a manpower dependent on the worlds least skilled, least assimilable immigrants. In 20 years time, as those Dutch Muslim teenagers are entering the voting booths, European countries, unlike parts of Nigeria, will not be living under Sharia, but they will be reaching their accommodations with their radicalised Islamic compatriots, who like many intolerant types are expert at exploiting the tolerance of pluralist societies.
How happy whats left of the ethnic Dutch or French or Danes will be about this remains to be seen. But the idea of a childless Europe rivalling America militarily or economically is laughable. Sometime this century there will be 500 million Americans, and whats left in Europe will either be very old or very Muslim. Thats the Europe that Britain will be binding its fate to. Japan faces the same problem: in 2006, its population will begin an absolute decline, a death spiral it will be unlikely ever to climb out of. Will Japan be an economic powerhouse if its populated by Koreans and Filipinos? Possibly. Will Germany if its populated by Algerians? Thats a trickier proposition. "
To: Tom D.
bttt
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posted on
11/09/2003 7:00:01 AM PST
by
lainde
To: Tom D.
"Item 1: In the last two weeks, two Toronto-bound El Al flights had to be diverted to other airports after credible terrorist threats were made about using surface-to-air missiles against them. The Canadian transport minister, David Collenette, responded by suggesting that the Israeli airline's service to Pearson International Airport might be ended."
This so reminds me of the movie 13 Days where the trade of weapons in Turkey for weapons in Cuba is propposed. At what point are these people going to realize that a siege of the west not seen since Vienna is underway? Not anytime soon I fear. Collenette could very well be a 21st century Quisling, but unlike Quisling I don't think the Canadians have the good sense to dangle Collenette at the end of a rope.
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posted on
11/09/2003 8:26:05 AM PST
by
DeepDish
(Depleted uranium and democrats are a lot alike. They've both been sucked dry of anything useful)
To: Tom D.
I think he is an idiot.
To: Argh; dubyaismypresident
In the war on terror, the United States believes in preemption; Canada, like many other ''allies,'' believes in preemptive surrender. These two strategies are incompatible yep.
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posted on
11/09/2003 8:32:33 AM PST
by
xsmommy
To: FairOpinion
I missed the others too - lucky for the repost - it is a great article.
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