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Choose the Right Gun
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| 11/12/03
| Charley Reese
Posted on 11/09/2003 9:08:06 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
Gratuitous "Shoot your lawyer" photo.
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posted on
11/09/2003 11:21:21 PM PST
by
martin_fierro
(_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
To: gbunch
I agree in principle. The .380 is marginal, but I am confident with the loading I use. It is not a question of "handling" a larger pistol, it's a matter of concealing it. I prefer to carry in an inside-the-belt holster in the small of my back so I can get to it quickly. I frequently carry it in places where you're not supposed to, and nobody knows it but me.
I get 7+1 rounds in a slightly larger than PPK package, w/ DA first shot for carry safety. I have been looking for a good 9mm/10mm/.40S&W in a small frame, but am unwilling to give up two rounds for a slightly larger bullet.
BTW, I consider .38 spec as sub caliber as well, if shot from a snub barrel. If I fire 7 shots at point-blank range, at least two of those will be head-shots: I doubt seriously that a perp is gonna run very far after that, regardless of bullet diameter. :)
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posted on
11/09/2003 11:30:33 PM PST
by
clee1
(Where's the beef???)
To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Refuse to attend a gun fight unless yhou have a weapon with a caliber of .40 or larger. A .45 ACP will do the job quite well. If you hit the center of mass the "Bad Guy" will go down and the energy of the bullet will be totally absorbed by the "BAD GUY"
This is good!
PS
Big fat slow bullets do it better!!!!
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posted on
11/10/2003 12:15:47 AM PST
by
cpdiii
(RPH, Oil field Trash and proud of it)
To: cpdiii
yhou = you.
Jim Rob how about spell check for us key board impaired????
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posted on
11/10/2003 12:20:31 AM PST
by
cpdiii
(RPH, Oil field Trash and proud of it)
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To: cpdiii
"how about spell check for us key board impaired"
http://www.iespell.com/ ieSpell - A Spell Checker for Internet Explorer
i donut uze them mysef-- two much overhed on my old pc...
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posted on
11/10/2003 1:45:23 AM PST
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Sunset...)
To: Ursus arctos horribilis
And for that kind of work, nothing in MMHO can compare to my 1911A1 .45 ACP If I had bought my Colt 1911A1 first, I would have a dozen fewer guns. I rarely even take the others to the range, any more. I used to think they were cult items.."What's the fuss about?".
Well, the fuss was about them being a classic, foolproof design combining accuracy, perfect functioning, and effectiveness.
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posted on
11/10/2003 2:19:47 AM PST
by
Gorzaloon
(Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
To: clee1
"I get 7+1 rounds in a slightly larger than PPK package, w/ DA first shot for carry safety. I have been looking for a good 9mm/10mm/.40S&W in a small frame, but am unwilling to give up two rounds for a slightly larger bullet."
Glock 26/27/33 with Milt Sparks Versa-Max II IWB, completely conceals and you get 10 rounds, 11 with one in the chamber.
Ed
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posted on
11/10/2003 2:36:40 AM PST
by
Sir_Ed
To: WoofDog123
"The press rarely reports what kinds of guns are used in crimes, and usually gets it wrong when it tries. Nevertheless, I have concluded Mr. Grump used a .22-caliber pistol. Otherwise, the Lucky Lawyer would not have remained on his feet for so long."
Bzzzzzt. Bad news Mr. Reese. The Mossad prefers the .22 and they are quite effective. It's the shooter that determines effectiveness, not the weapon.
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posted on
11/10/2003 3:12:07 AM PST
by
Beck_isright
(Socialists are like cockroaches. No matter how many die, 300 more are born under every cowpile.)
To: WoofDog123
The shooter in LA used a .38 special.
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posted on
11/10/2003 3:35:13 AM PST
by
CGTRWK
To: templar
#4 shot is too small.
Use 0-0 Buck
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posted on
11/10/2003 5:22:34 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: WoofDog123
If you have to shoot somebody, make sure the judge will hear only your version of what happened. In other words, kill; otherwise, your assailant will probably sue you.This is actually a good article. I teach personal defense and will use this piece as one more item of information for my students.
These threads follow a pattern of becoming personal preferences per weapons best suited for self-defense. There is so often little realism in comments by gun enthusiasts who typically have no experience in confrontations and/or no meaningful training.
I like and shoot a 1911 A-1 in 45 ACP as much as the next enthusiast but I don't carry it concealed. Remember, the gun you have with you is worth far more than the 45 ACP you left at home.
Pick a small, lightweight gun and carry it concealed all the time. If you are on the street much, you WILL be glad for that 32 or 380! Also be sure you learn to use the gun you do carry.
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posted on
11/10/2003 5:43:54 AM PST
by
toddst
To: clee1
If I fire 7 shots at point-blank range, at least two of those will be head-shots: This sounds good but rarely works out. Your attacker isn't likely to just stand there while you draw and fire. Based on work with students in self-defense situations where they face a moving opponent, few get any hits at all, let alone head shots.
If you haven't been through a demanding pistol training program, do so at your earliest convenience. I recommend Gunsite in Paulden, Arizona. Go, learn and increase your chance of surviving a confrontation unharmed.
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posted on
11/10/2003 6:01:10 AM PST
by
toddst
To: WoofDog123
A .44 might make your ears ring for a week, but my snub nose .357 rattles your teeth at the gun range. Even with ear protection it's LOUD.
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posted on
11/10/2003 6:13:51 AM PST
by
stevio
To: WoofDog123
This statement, which appears in the article, is true but not the whole truth:
In other words, kill; otherwise, your assailant will probably sue you.
What is left out is that it is not unheard of for the dead assailant's relatives to sue you.
And for goodness sake, never tell the police that you intended to kill your attacker. You only shot to stop him. Hopefully, none of us has blood lust.
To: OldPossum
"In other words, kill; otherwise, your assailant will probably sue you."
CC: Tony Martin
To: Gorzaloon
If I had bought my Colt 1911A1 first, I would have a dozen fewer guns. .........classic, foolproof design combining accuracy, perfect functioning, and effectiveness. Indeed!
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posted on
11/10/2003 7:15:18 AM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: gbunch; clee1
I believe the sights should always be used. If a person is far away, the sights should be used because no too many people havn't practiced for the years it takes to be able to hit a A zone without them.
If an armed person is close, that means that it's just as easy for them to hit you as it is for you to hit them. That means they have to be stopped immediately. Now. Not a second later. That means it's imperative that the central nervous systme has to be hit and hit hard. That still calls for the sights to be used. Especially if a minor caliber is used. The only target would be the eye sockets. That's grim but the truth. A minor caliber can't be trusted to penetrate the breast bone and then the spinal column.
To: Shooter 2.5
"Early morning spelling" bump.
To: Shooter 2.5
The only target would be the eye sockets. That's grim but the truth. A minor caliber can't be trusted to penetrate the breast bone and then the spinal column.Generally I agree with you. However, even with a "minor" caliber I would first fire two shots to center-of-mass to be sure I've gotten hits. Either of the initial two shots may clip an artery or get the heart, in which case my attacker will go down pretty quickly.
Only after the first two center-of-mass shots would I go for head shots, hoping for the eyes. Stress, time and movement of my attacker make any head shot pretty iffy, in my experience.
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posted on
11/10/2003 7:58:24 AM PST
by
toddst
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