[rcocean]

Sorry I didnt see your post until after you made your response. I see your points but I still disagree. In CY 2003 if you want a conservative government you will have trust people Give them more power - they are on our side.

[Cboldt]

"When the people learn they can vote money for themselves from the public treasury .... " the jig is up. Democracy doesn't work, and the founding fathers knew it. History proves it too.