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To: bluejay
We are such a prize that He chose to become a MAN in order to save us. The Son of God, second person of the triune Godhead, lived on earth for 33 years.
11 posted on 11/15/2003 11:18:11 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv; pepsionice; Just mythoughts
We are such a prize that He chose to become a MAN in order to save us. The Son of God, second person of the triune Godhead, lived on earth for 33 years.

Not being Christian, I do not believe that such an event ever occurred. However, taking your argument at face value - I still do not believe that Earth is central to Lord's creation. It is Man that is central. Earth is important because we live here, not the other way around. I do not believe there is anything in the Bible that talks about centrality of planet Earth.

The order of creation, as listed in my translation of the Bible, is as follows: light, heavens (sky), land (Earth), plants, stars, etc. This is probably confused. It is unlikely that plants came before stars. The question is - is it important to our faiths to believe that six days of Creation as well as the order of Creation are literal facts? Thomas Aquinas wrote in II Sententiarum:

With respect to the origin of the world, there is one point that is of the substance of the faith, viz. to know that it began by creation, on which all the authors in question are in agreement. But the manner and the order according to which creation took place concerns the faith only incidentally, in so far as it has been recorded in Scripture, and of these things the aforementioned authors, safeguarding the truth by their various interpretations, have reported different things.
81 posted on 11/16/2003 11:35:57 AM PST by bluejay
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To: bondserv
We are such a prize that He chose to become a MAN in order to save us

So you think he saved us because we're so great huh?

Think again

Ro 5:7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

Ro 5:8

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Eph 2:2

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Eph 2:3

Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Eph 2:4

¶ But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Eph 2:5

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

Eph 2:6

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Eph 2:7

That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Eph 2:8

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

501 posted on 11/25/2003 10:19:53 AM PST by netman
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