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Dan Rather Has Learned to Resist [TV Week's Alex Ben Block discusses Free Republic, Dennis Prager]
www.tvweek.com ^ | November 17, 2003 | Alex Ben Block

Posted on 11/16/2003 11:57:57 PM PST by RonDog

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To: piasa
Pulls no puches my arse...

Old tough guy Gunga Dan. Kicked out of Marine Corps basic training cause he "hurt" himself. Yet still claims himself as a "Marine" to all his leftist, limpwrist Upper West Side suckups.

Bump! To all west coast Free Republic Comrades in their heroic strugle against leftist hemogony. ( I don't know what I just wrote, but it sounds good.)
41 posted on 11/17/2003 4:46:31 AM PST by Leisler
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To: RonDog
Hadn't seen pics of this west coast freep before. Y'all are outstanding. Thanks.
42 posted on 11/17/2003 4:46:41 AM PST by PGalt
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To: RonDog
Stunned by that revelation, I soon learned the Free Republicans were abuzz about the event and my interest. In addition to some e-mail, I got a call from Matthew Sheffield, 25, an unemployed student in Virginia. He and his brother Greg, 22, operate the Web site Rather Biased, which began around the time of the Clinton impeachment. They focused on Mr. Rather, said Mr. Sheffield, who they felt "carried his [opinions] over into his reporting."

Mr. Sheffield told me he considered Fox News Channel biased as well, but to the right. "We're equal-opportunity," he explained.

I asked if he ever tried to contact Mr. Rather. Mr. Sheffield said no, although he did talk to someone at CBS once. "I really haven't thought of that," he added. "I would interview Dan Rather [for the Web site] any day of the week if he would have an honest dialogue about bias. He hates talking about it. If he had a real honest dialogue, we'd probably go away. That's all we want. We all want our voices to be heard."

The article is mostly correct regarding my conversation with Alex Block, but he mangled a few things:

_mws_

43 posted on 11/17/2003 4:49:01 AM PST by RatherBiased.com
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To: RonDog
Part of being a journalist," he said, "and trying to be a journalist who pulls no punches and plays no favorites, who tries to be accurate and fair and who knows you are going to make your mistakes, is sometimes you have to face the furnace and take the heat."


True. But what does that have to do with you?
44 posted on 11/17/2003 5:02:27 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: RonDog; DoughtyOne; Libertina; Interesting Times; Nick Danger; MinuteGal; abner; ...
Ping!
45 posted on 11/17/2003 5:22:29 AM PST by diotima ("I find it simply baffling that a Senator would vote against even voting on a judicial nomination.")
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To: RonDog
I was left saddened that Mr. Rather and CBS News might be hurt and the public might be misled by these silly, noisy, publicity-hungry protesters, some of whom don't even watch TV. What a contrast with a dedicated, hard-working journalist like Mr. Rather, who has spent his life serving the public and his profession.

To Alex Ben Block: I grew up watching the CBS News. After I became aware of Dan Rather's extreme liberal bias during the 1990s, I began monitoring him and his "news" show more closely. I have hours upon hours of video showing his liberal bias.

BTW - I don't bother "monitoring" Dan Rather any more. I let the excellent website http://www.RatherBiased.com do that for me.

46 posted on 11/17/2003 5:37:44 AM PST by an amused spectator (How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm, once they been to the Internet?)
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To: RatherBiased.com
The article is mostly correct regarding my conversation with Alex Block, but he mangled a few things...

It's nice owning your own media sycophants, isn't it? ;-)

We're on the other side of the fence, looking in at the giant glittering ballroom bash of the inbred fourth-estaters.

47 posted on 11/17/2003 5:41:35 AM PST by an amused spectator (How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm, once they been to the Internet?)
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To: leadpencil1
Kill your television ping.
48 posted on 11/17/2003 6:04:06 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough (With my windows down and system up.)
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To: RonDog


49 posted on 11/17/2003 6:05:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (I won! I won! http://rmeek141.home.comcast.net/LotteryTicketRutRoh.JPG)
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To: yall


50 posted on 11/17/2003 6:05:43 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (I won! I won! http://rmeek141.home.comcast.net/LotteryTicketRutRoh.JPG)
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To: diotima; *CCRM; *Presstitutes; nutmeg; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2; mhking; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; ...
Ping!
An EXCELLENT idea, dio!
Would you please PING this thread - about Free Republic "in the news" - to your lists?

51 posted on 11/17/2003 6:09:17 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Ugh, talk about biased. Did you catch the part about the little girl cowering behind Cinnamon Girl? What a load.
52 posted on 11/17/2003 6:21:17 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (My eyes are blind but I can see....Ozzy)
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To: KellyAdmirer
"The writer carefully, very carefully, never even attempts to examine whether Rather actually IS biased."

Probably has never even considered the propostion. If you asked Block to react to and discuss last week's WSJ article that cataloged research on broadcast bias, I'll bet he probably would have no idea what you're talking about.

53 posted on 11/17/2003 6:34:39 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: TheSpottedOwl; Cinnamon Girl; DoctorZIn; DoughtyOne
Ugh, talk about biased.
Did you catch the part about the little girl cowering behind Cinnamon Girl?
What a load.
You are correct.
He (or his EDITOR, if he has one) should have chosen a better word. :(
CG's little daughter is ADORABLE, but she WAS around a lot of big, scary people - like ME, and Doctor ZIn!


Photograph courtesy of DoughtyOne

54 posted on 11/17/2003 6:47:23 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Inspired to do my job as a reporter...

If this guy is a reporter, the woods are full of them.

He's plainsly a fawning acolyte of the rich and famous who somehow got into print.

55 posted on 11/17/2003 6:49:19 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum
plainsly = plainly
56 posted on 11/17/2003 6:50:00 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Drango
"And for the record, I've tried to contact the elites at CBS/ABC/NBC/PBS countless times only to be ignored. No thanks Alex, your charge rings false..."

Me too. I am always exceedingly careful to be polite, but that cuts no mustard at CBSNBCABC. Criticisms are not accepted........or responded to.

What aggravates many is that every other institiution is subjected to criticism on TV, but the TV Press, well, they hold the pipeline through which criticisms must pass, so they operate with a "Gentleman's agreement," which guarantees that their work will not be criticized. Have you ever seen one network criticized by another?

57 posted on 11/17/2003 7:00:38 AM PST by cookcounty (The Guardian: The paper where absolution for atrocities is granted to all who hate America.)
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To: cookcounty
Probably has never even considered the propostion. If you asked Block to react to and discuss last week's WSJ article that cataloged research on broadcast bias, I'll bet he probably would have no idea what you're talking about.
That would be THIS one, from www.opinionjournal.com:
Past Featured Article

WATCHING THE NEWS

Spot the Difference
Why are newspapers so liberal in labeling "conservatives"?

BY DAVID W. BRADY AND JONATHAN MA
Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:01 a.m. EST

The release of former CBS reporter Bernard Goldberg's book, "Bias," first prompted our examination of the degree to which the news media deviate from objective coverage. Mr. Goldberg wrote of how during Bill Clinton's impeachment trial, Peter Jennings consistently labeled Republican loyalists as "conservatives" or "very determined conservatives." Meanwhile, the ABC News anchor did not refer to Democratic loyalists as "liberals," treating Mr. Clinton's allies, instead, as mainstream lawmakers. So we asked ourselves, was the media's tendency to label particular senators isolated to the Clinton impeachment trial? Or is there a more pernicious generality? After a study of New York Times and Washington Post articles published between 1990 and 2002, we conclude that the problem is endemic.

We examined every Times and Post article that contained references to a senator. Specifically, we set out to reveal the treatment of the 10 most liberal and 10 most conservative senators from each congressional session. We used the Poole-Rosenthal ratings--developed by the University of Houston's Keith Poole to illustrate a senator's ideological extremity--to determine which senators to study. Using a reliable news database, we deployed a constant search term to uncover when news writers labeled senators conservative or liberal. For five successive congressional sessions during this time period, we documented when Times and Post reporters directly labeled Republican loyalists "conservatives" and Democratic loyalists "liberals" in their news stories. (We excluded editorials.)

The first finding of our study is consistent with the results found for media stories on institutions such as corporations, Congress or universities, namely, that most of the time the story is straightforward--as in "Senators X, Y, and Z visited the European Parliament." However, when there were policy issues at stake we found that conservative senators earn "conservative" labels from Times reporters more often than liberal senators receive "liberal" labels.

Sticky Labels
Classifications of U.S. senators as liberal or conservative

  New York Times Washington Post
Congress % lib % con % lib % con
102nd
3.87
9.03
2.04
6.00
103rd
3.18
10.80
2.48
5.40
104th
3.08
8.03
1.90
5.40
105th
5.54
11.95
2.13
6.28
106th
3.71
12.73
2.28
5.52
107th
4.43
6.67
3.68
7.21
For instance, during the 102nd Congress, the Times labeled liberal senators as "liberal" in 3.87% of the stories in which they were mentioned. In contrast, the 10 most conservative senators were identified as "conservative" in 9.03% of the stories in which they were mentioned, nearly three times the rate for liberal senators. Over the course of six congressional sessions, the labeling of conservative senators in the Washington Post and New York Times occurred at a rate of two, three, four and even five times as often as that of liberal senators (see chart). It appears clear that the news media assume that conservative ideology needs to be identified more often than liberal ideology does.

The disparity in reporting was not limited to numbers. Times reporters often inject comments that present liberals in a more favorable light than conservatives. For instance, during the 102nd Congress, Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa was described in Times stories as "a kindred liberal Democrat from Iowa," a "respected Midwestern liberal" and "a good old-fashioned liberal." Fellow Democrat Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts received neutral, if not benign, identification: "a liberal spokesman" and "the party's old-school liberal."

In contrast, Times reporters presented conservative senators as belligerent and extreme. During the 102nd Congress, Sen. Jesse Helms was labeled as "the most unyielding conservative," "the unyielding conservative Republican," "the contentious conservative" and "the Republican arch-conservative." During this time period, Times reporters made a point to specifically identify Sen. Malcolm Wallop of Wyoming and Sen. Robert C. Smith of New Hampshire as "very conservative," and Sen. Don Nickles of Oklahoma as "one of the most conservative elected officials in America."

We have detected a pattern of editorialized commentary throughout the decade. Liberal senators were granted near-immunity from any disparaging remarks regarding their ideological position: Sen. Harkin is "a liberal intellectual"; Sen. Barbara Boxer of California is "a reliably outspoken liberal"; Sen. Paul Simon of Illinois is "a respected Midwestern liberal"; Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York is "difficult to categorize politically"; Sen. Kennedy is "a liberal icon" and "liberal abortion rights stalwart"; and Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg of New Jersey is a man whose "politics are liberal to moderate."

While references to liberal senators in the Times evoke a brave defense of the liberal platform (key words: icon and stalwart), the newspaper portrays conservatives as cantankerous lawmakers seeking to push their agenda down America's throat. Descriptions of conservative senators include "unyielding," "hard-line" and "firebrand." A taste of Times quotes on conservatives during the period of 1990-2000: Sen. Nickles is "a fierce conservative" and "a rock-ribbed conservative"; Sen. Helms is "perhaps the most tenacious and quarrelsome conservative in the Senate, and with his "right-wing isolationist ideology" he is the "best-known mischief maker." Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona is "a Republican hard-liner"; Sen. Smith is "a granite-hard Republican conservative"; Sen. Gramm takes "aggressively conservative stands" and has "touched on many red-meat conservative topics," as "the highly partisan conservative Texan"; Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas is "hard-core conservative," "considerably more conservative . . . less pragmatic," "hard-line conservative . . . one of Newt Gingrich's foot soldiers" and "a hard-charging conservative"; Sen. Tim Hutchinson of Arkansas is "a staunch conservative"; and Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho is "an arch-conservative."

This labeling pattern was not limited to the Times. Liberal and conservative senators also received different treatment from the Washington Post. Distinctly liberal senators were described as bipartisan lawmakers and iconic leaders of a noble cause. In the 107th Congress, Sen. Paul Sarbanes of Maryland was described as "one of the more liberal senators but [with] a record of working with Republicans." Sen. Harkin was bathed in bipartisan light: "a prairie populist with a generally liberal record, although he's made a few detours to more conservative positions demanded by his Iowa constituents." Of Carol Moseley Braun of Illinois, the Post said: "Though a liberal at heart, she is more pragmatic than ideological." Other liberals were lionized or cast in soft focus: "Sen. Kennedy is a hero to liberals and a major irritant to conservatives, plus an old-style liberal appeal to conscience"; Sen. Paul Wellstone of Minnesota "was one of the few unabashed liberals left on Capitol Hill and an ebullient liberal"; Sen. Moynihan was "a liberal public intellectual."

In contrast, the Post portrayed conservative senators unflatteringly. Republican loyalists were often labeled as hostile and out of the mainstream. In the 107th Congress, Sens. Gramm and Nickles were dismissed as a "conservative Texan" and "conservative Oklahoman" respectively. Post reporters regarded Sen. Smith as an "idiosyncratic conservative," "militantly conservative" and "a conservative man in a conservative suit from the conservative state of New Hampshire." Other Republicans were characterized as antagonists: Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma is "a hard-line GOP conservative"; Sen. Kyl is "a combative conservative"; Sen. Helms is "a cantankerous, deeply conservative chairman," "a Clinton-bashing conservative," "the crusty senator from North Carolina," "the longtime keeper of the conservative flame" and "a conservative curmudgeon."

Our preliminary results for other papers--USA Today, the San Diego Union-Tribune, the Los Angeles Times--reveal similar patterns to those described above. The major exception is The Wall Street Journal, and even there the labeling of conservatives to liberals is a little less than 2 to 1. The effect of these findings on senators' re-election, fund raising and careers is little understood, but the relationship is complicated. However, one can conclude fairly from this survey that conservative senators, consistently portrayed as spoilers, are ill-served by the political reporting in two of the leading general-interest newspapers of the United States. Liberals, on the other hand, get a free pass. If this is not bias, pray what is?

Mr. Brady is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a professor of political science at Stanford, where Mr. Ma is a senior in economics.


58 posted on 11/17/2003 7:01:07 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Well, I DO watch television, and I heard Dan Rather tell Bill OP'Reilly that ne believed Bill Clinton is an honest man.


An unbiased news anchor, Riggghhht!!
59 posted on 11/17/2003 7:07:00 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: RonDog
Cool...another chance to post muh new graphic!


60 posted on 11/17/2003 7:08:52 AM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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