I believe that which is supported by the evidence. What method do you use? From these threads, it appears to be, "ignore all evidence, and keep believing what you *want* to believe".
Ignore the flaws of carbon dating.
If you mean the "flaws" parroted by the creationists, those aren't flaws, they're creationist lies. I prefer not to pollute my mind with proven lies. You seem to wallow in them, as long as they allow you to hand-wave away real-world challenges to your preconceptions.
It is NO coincidence that the laws of science do NOT support your hypothesis, okay Ill be kind "theory".
Empty unsupported claim... You love those, don't you? Let's see you make a case for your rantings -- this should be amusing.
It is also NO coincidence that ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists.
What color is the sky in your paranoid fantasy world?
[From an article by Edward Babinski:]
Dr. Colling (fundamentalist Christian and chair of Biology at a fundamentalist Christian college) is O.K. with Darwinian evolution and has even composed a book on the subject titled, Random Designer: Created From Chaos To Connect With Creator. "It pains me to suggest that my religious brothers are telling falsehoods" when they say evolutionary theory is "in crisis" and claim that there is widespread skepticism about it among scientists. "Such statements are blatantly untrue," he argues. "Evolution has stood the test of time and considerable scrutiny...What the designer designed is the random-design process," or Darwinian evolution, Colling says. "God devised these natural laws, and uses evolution to accomplish his goals." "Random Designer" or "Divine Tinkerer?"It's amazing that you can keep repeatedly spewing complete falsehoods without ever *once* bothering to do even the most basic reality-checks on them.
Either way, Darwinism and God could be viewed as
overlapping hypotheses. For the full story see,
"Teaching Evolution at Christian College" by Sharon Begley, The Wall Street Journal (December 31, 2004) http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-olivet31.html
(The non-Christian Michael Denton agrees. Denton's book, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, preceded Behe and Dembski's works, and made a big impression on the people who founded Origins & Design, but Denton no longer finds evolution to be a "theory in crisis" so much as a fact of nature. Denton even told the Discovery Institute that he wished to be taken off their role as an "associate" of that institute.)
MORE CHRISTIAN EVOLUTIONISTS
Perspectives on an Evolving Creation, ed. Keith B.
Miller http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~kbmill/ (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2003)--Essays by
I wonder what creationists and I.D.ists think of
Christians who accept Darwinistic evolution? (And who reject the anti-Darwinian arguments of creaitonists and the Discovery Institute?)
Dr. Colling (fundamentalist Christian and chair of
Biology at a fundamentalist Christian college) is O.K. with Darwinian evolution and has even composed a book on the subject titled, Random Designer: Created From Chaos To Connect With Creator. "It pains me to suggest that my religious brothers are telling falsehoods" when they say evolutionary theory is "in crisis" and claim that there is widespread skepticism about it among scientists. "Such statements are blatantly untrue," he argues. "Evolution has stood the test of time and considerable scrutiny...What the designer designed is the random-design process," or Darwinian evolution, Colling says. "God devised these natural laws, and uses evolution to accomplish his goals." "Random Designer" or "Divine Tinkerer?"
Either way, Darwinism and God could be viewed as
overlapping hypotheses. For the full story see,
"Teaching Evolution at Christian College" by Sharon Begley, The Wall Street Journal (December 31, 2004) http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-olivet31.html
(The non-Christian Michael Denton agrees. Denton's book, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, preceded Behe and Dembski's works, and made a big impression on the people who founded Origins & Design, but Denton no longer finds evolution to be a "theory in crisis" so much as a fact of nature. Denton even told the Discovery Institute that he wished to be taken off their role as an "associate" of that institute.)
MORE CHRISTIAN EVOLUTIONISTS
Perspectives on an Evolving Creation, ed. Keith B.
Miller http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~kbmill/ (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2003)--Essays by theistic evolutionist Christians:
Terry Gray (Colorado State)
James Hurd (Bethel College)
Ted Davis (Messiah College)
Robin Collins (Messiah College)
David Wilcox (Eastern College)
Mark Noll (Wheaton College)
Jeff Greenberg (Wheaton College)
Laurie Braaten (Judson College)
John Munday, Jr. (Regent Univ.)
Loren Haarsma (Calvin College)
Howard Van Till (Calvin College)
Deborah Haarsma (Calvin College)
Warren Brown (Fuller Theological)
David Campbell (University of Alabama)
Jennifer Wiseman (Johns Hopkins Univ.)
Conrad Hyers (Gustavus Adolphus College)
George Murphy (Trinity Lutheran Seminary)
Bob Russell (Center for Theology and Natural Sciences)
http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~kbmill/Book_Ann.html
God and Evolution (Nov. 2004) by David L. Wilcox
(Ph.D. in Population Genetics, Professor of Biology, Eastern College, St. David's, PA.)
Darwinism Defeated? A debate between Phillip E.
Johnson (I.D.ist) and Denis O. Lamoureux (Ph.D.
biologist/evolutionist and Evangelical Christian
http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlamoure/index.htm) Apparently Johnson does not offer copies of this debate book for sale at his website, or didn't, last I looked.
Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground Between God and Evolution by Kenneth R. Miller (Ph.D. biologist and Catholic Christian)http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/index.html
Chance From a Theistic Perspective (The Perspectives of Two Evangelical Christian Evolutionists: Donald MacKay and John Polkinghorne)
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance-theistic.html
Fine-Tuners Who Reject I.D. Arguments
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/babinski/inerrancy.html
Darwin's Forgotten Christian Defenders
http://www.creation-science.us/creationism/darwin.html
Three Cheers For Christian Evolutionists
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/evolution/christian_evolution.html
From Abandoning Geocentrism To Accepting Evolution: A "Liberal Trend" Among Evangelical Christians?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/2/part12.html
Francis Collins, Director of the Human Genome Project, is a Christian who accepts evolution. He stated: "I am unaware of any irreconcilable conflict between scientific knowledge about evolution and the idea of a creator God; why couldn't God have used the mechanism of evolution to create?...In my field, biology, because of the creationists the standard assumption is that anyone who has faith has gone soft in the head.
When scientists like me admit they are believers, the reaction from colleagues is 'How did this guy get tenure?'"--Gregg Easterbrook, "Science and God: A Warming Trend?" Science, Vol. 277, No. 5328, Aug. 15 1997, p. 890-893
CHRISTIAN EVOLUTIONISTS ON THE WEB
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/topics/Evolution/murphy__van_dyke_dialogue.html#Theistic%20Evolution
http://www.bibleandscience.com
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/dmd.htm
http://www.meta-library.net/bio/hvt-body.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/anthony_garrett/esct.html
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ockham/stories/s17040.htm
http://www.faithreason.org/
http://groups.msn.com/ChristiansForEvolution
http://atheism.about.com/b/a/136886.htm
http://www.berea.edu/specialproject/scienceandfaith/ess
ay03.asp
http://members.aol.com/steamdoc/writings/evangel.html
http://zygoncenter.org/about_who.html
Voices For Evolution: Statements From Religious
Organizations
http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/1028_statements_from_religious_org_12_19_2002.asp