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To: elfman2
"IF" the State steps outside of it's moral jurisdiction and gives marriage certificates to 2 or more people from the same sex to be legally married, SHOULD THEY (The State) be entrusted to give licenses that are really bonafide and legitimate? It's kind of like doctors in any given hospital in one room doing abortions, (killings) and on the other side of the wall, in the same hospital heroic rescue efforts to save a child born at 6 months! (That's why we chose home birth! Why even go to a hospital where abortions were practiced? in the same room where babies are suppose to be delivered to loving couples?)Could private citizens just do the 'church' licenses, like they do here in Mexico, "What's the point" getting a license if anything or anyone wants to marry? Can I marry my mule?
26 posted on 11/18/2003 8:35:01 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez
Marriages should be registered by the civil authorities, since there are civil legal issues involved like shared property and child custody. But they should be performed by somebody else, like a church.

That way if two men wanted to get married, they could register with the civil authorites, but the marriage itself would be a matter between themselves and whatever outside institution they chose to involve.

If two people want to be married by their plumber, well so be it. But if two people want to be married in a church, and make promises to each other in front of families and friends and God, what purpose does the state serve there?
27 posted on 11/18/2003 8:43:36 AM PST by gridlock (Countdown to Hillary!: ONE day... Hillary! will announce for President TOMORROW, Weds. Nov 19, 2003)
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To: rovenstinez
"Can I marry my mule?"

A half dozen times here I’ve outlined the reason that gay marriage (right or wrong) in simple to differentiate from bestiality, pedophilia and polygamy. I’m unable to devote the time now to the multitude of volleys it generates each time. But in summary, it has to do with need (with some evidence of biological origins) verses a simple desire to push boundaries, frequency of that need in the population, and the destructiveness of the practice.

I apologize, but I have some important things to complete so I won’t be engaging in this debate now.

28 posted on 11/18/2003 8:44:15 AM PST by elfman2
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To: rovenstinez
"What's the point" getting a license if anything or anyone wants to marry? Can I marry my mule?

Sorry. Next step is to give them your boys. They want the age of consent lowered to around 10 years old.
Your mule will have to wait in line.

34 posted on 11/18/2003 8:50:00 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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