[Travis McGee]

IMHO, the so-called militias cannot be effective for many reasons, first of all because they are totally penetrated by agents provacateurs. The serious militias would never call themselves that lightning rod term. They would call themselves a hunting club etc and conduct any training in private. Even then, the number of participants would have to be tiny, under ten I would think.

[Destro]

The scary truth is that if the US military came breaking down our door - the guns would either be handed over or the hold outs will be Waco-ed. How many of us Americans are used to living out in the mountains like Chechens or Bosnian Serbs or Albanians? Jack Frost comes nipping at my nose up in the woods and I'm back home watching football in my easy chair with a picture of El Presidente hanging on a shrine on the wall. Hell 99.999% would give up resistance as soon as the toilet paper runs out.

The only hope we would have is if some govenors and their states, preferably those that still have a manufacturing base refuse to stand up to the Federal govt. Good Luck.