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CA: Immigrant license law rough road for backers
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 11/22/03 | Vic Pollard

Posted on 11/23/2003 10:31:28 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 11/23/2003 10:31:29 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002
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2 posted on 11/23/2003 10:31:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .....)
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CA: Immigrant license law rough road for backers

Good.  Excellent.

The rougher, the better.

3 posted on 11/23/2003 10:33:52 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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But he [Sen. Dean Florez] and others say it is a complicated issue...

Oh, please! This is not a "complicated issue". You're either in favor of rewarding illegal aliens or you're not.

4 posted on 11/23/2003 10:43:45 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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Let there be no compromise on repealing SB 60. It has got to go. I hope there are calls to repeal similar laws in other states. At least, 15 other states grant driver's licenses to illegals. Thus, it is not a California problem.
6 posted on 11/23/2003 11:19:38 AM PST by Kuksool (Illegal immigration is toxic to Americans)
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I for one am entirely in favor of licenses for illegal immigrants, as long as they say "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT" across the front.

Mrs VS
7 posted on 11/23/2003 11:20:26 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Santini
They will go whatever way they think will get them the most votes come election time.

Yeah, I know. I just get tired of hearing their same old, sorry old rhetoric. Blech!

8 posted on 11/23/2003 11:24:04 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: VeritatisSplendor
If they're ILLEGAL...why aren't they sent out as soon as they are observed????
9 posted on 11/23/2003 11:29:05 AM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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She is a Democrat running for re-election in a west-side district with a large Latino population, but with a voting pattern so conservative that she barely eked out a victory in her first try for office last year.

The problem with Latino politicians in this state is that they think Latino people are a monolith that sees things one way. Black politicians make the same mistake regarding black people.

No one believes that if illegals get driver's licenses they will automatically get automobile insurance because here in California you don't necessarily need a driver's license to get insurance. But you do need some sort of identification and the only ID illegals have is illegal ID. You also need money and we're constantly reminded how illegals are living "hand to mouth". It's nonsense and most Californians have finally figured it out: the solution is to not allow illegals in.

One other decision Latino politicians need to make: either they are American or they are Mexican. If they are American they need to put America's (and Americans') best interests first. If they are Mexican they need to move there where they can put Mexico's (and Mexicans') best interests first. There is no middle ground and nothing to debate...it is that simple...and it appears that the majority of Californians finally understand that.

10 posted on 11/23/2003 11:29:53 AM PST by blake6900
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What they dread is a ballot initiative that would provide voters a chance to register their views on illegal immigration.
11 posted on 11/23/2003 11:34:35 AM PST by Plutarch
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The GOP should back the use of the International Driver's Permit.

It's recognized by over 150 nations, including the US and only costs $10.00 for the paperwork.

It requires a valid license from the home country of origin> who could be against that? If they can't get a license in Mexico, we don't need them driving here.
12 posted on 11/23/2003 11:40:53 AM PST by wildbill
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It is all about the job and power. You are right.
13 posted on 11/23/2003 11:46:22 AM PST by texastoo
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The International Driver's Permit is a sensible compromise. After all, the Pro-Aztlan people demand that local counties accept their Matricular Consular cards as valid forms of ID.
14 posted on 11/23/2003 12:04:05 PM PST by Kuksool (Illegal immigration is toxic to Americans)
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I'm not from California. Can someone from there explain how illegal immigrants register their cars.
15 posted on 11/23/2003 12:10:08 PM PST by CaptainK
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From the article: Schwarzenegger has said he is open to another bill "if you can put the whole package together, tied to insurance, tied to background checks and all that."

Kalifornia already requires that owners of vehicles demonstrate insurance coverage in order to renew vehicle registrations. Arnold's bright idea will lead to an additional requirement that all driver's licenses be tied to insurance, which isn't done now. This will require even more paperwork on the part of insurers to provide the documentation required by the state.

Adding requirements for legal Kalifornia drivers and Kalifornia insurers is just more of the same liberal garbage that got us to where we are. There is absolutely no justification for enabling illegal behavior of any type. And that certainly includes the "free" health care and schooling mandated for illegals today.

17 posted on 11/23/2003 12:38:32 PM PST by William Tell
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CaptainK asks: "I'm not from California. Can someone from there explain how illegal immigrants register their cars."

You don't have to prove much of anything to register a vehicle. The registration permits taxation, periodic smog checks, and verification of insurance.

Insurance companies issue small certificates, one copy of which is to be in the vehicle and one copy is submitted with registration renewals. There is no requirement that a person be a citizen; just a Kalifornia address would do.

Once the registration has been filed, the insured can probably cancel the insurance, receiving a pro-rated refund, and there is no requirement that the insurance company inform the state. If there is a lien-holder listed as "legal owner" and loss-payee, then the insurance company would notify them of the insurance cancellation.

If the state is not willing to jail or seek deportation for people who are not in compliance with these laws, then there is little motivation for them to be in compliance. I think that most of these laws are overly burdensome and should be repealed. But I resent the fact that they can be enforced against the law-abiding and yet there are no significant consequences for illegals.

18 posted on 11/23/2003 12:52:12 PM PST by William Tell
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If you are telling me that you need insurance to register the car than what is all this nonsense about giving them legal licenses so they will get insurance?
19 posted on 11/23/2003 1:00:17 PM PST by CaptainK
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joke
20 posted on 11/23/2003 1:41:37 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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