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To: hunter112
Redefining theology is how 10,000 denominations of Christianity came to be. This is nothing new. Just ask Henry the Eighth.

Indeed. I just wish all the Protestants who still celebrate the "heroism" of folks like Luther, Calvin and Zwingli would realize that "Bishop" Robinson and the Goodridge decision are the logical culmination of what those guys set in motion, and we haven't seen the end yet.

It is (as the communists used to say) no accident that the writer of the original Washington Post article made a parallel between the 16th century Protestant Reformation and the "New Gay Theology". The one leads inevitably to the other. Actions have consequences the actors often don't have intended, people.
14 posted on 11/25/2003 9:19:13 AM PST by Paladin2b
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To: Paladin2b
"Indeed. I just wish all the Protestants who still celebrate the "heroism" of folks like Luther, Calvin and Zwingli would realize that "Bishop" Robinson and the Goodridge decision are the logical culmination of what those guys set in motion, and we haven't seen the end yet."

I don't want to refight the Reformation, but I don't think this analogy holds water. Luther, Calvin and Zwingli all held to the authority of scripture, indeed they held to it rather more tightly than the Roman church. These gay theologians begin by rejecting Scripture as normative and openly demote it to a position of being subject to human "reinterpretation." What would you do if the Pope ruled homosexual practice to be perfectly normal and okay for priests? ---As the apostolic successor in New Hampshire has already done?

27 posted on 11/25/2003 9:38:39 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: Paladin2b
It is (as the communists used to say) no accident that the writer of the original Washington Post article made a parallel between the 16th century Protestant Reformation and the "New Gay Theology". The one leads inevitably to the other. Actions have consequences the actors often don't have intended, people.

Hardly. The Protestant Reformation sought to restore the Scriptures, saving them from the "traditions of men." Sola Scriptura.

The "New Gay Theology" is a return to the traditions of men, in this case queer folk, who "professing to be wise, they became fools, exchanging the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man..." (Romans 1:23ff)... "...God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for the unnatural, and ... men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another...' (Romans 1:26ff).

Not all "reformers" are correct. The Bible is the standard against which all private interpretations must be judged.

10,000 denominations? Care to name them?

28 posted on 11/25/2003 9:40:59 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: Paladin2b
Indeed. I just wish all the Protestants who still celebrate the "heroism" of folks like Luther, Calvin and Zwingli would realize that "Bishop" Robinson and the Goodridge decision are the logical culmination of what those guys set in motion, and we haven't seen the end yet.

Codswallop. The Reformers upheld Scripture as the highest and final rule by which all matters of faith and morals were to be decided. "Queer theology" is an abandonment of the Reformation, not the culmination of it.

The glorification of homosexuality in the liberal churches and the elevation of the Virgin Mary to co-mediatrix are both symptoms of the same disease: the abandonment of the Church's proper rule of faith.

40 posted on 11/25/2003 10:11:25 AM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Paladin2b
I just wish all the Protestants who still celebrate the "heroism" of folks like Luther...




44 posted on 11/25/2003 10:23:08 AM PST by johnb838 (Majority Rule, Minority Rights. Not the other way around.)
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To: Paladin2b
Indeed. I just wish all the Protestants who still celebrate the "heroism" of folks like Luther, Calvin and Zwingli would realize that "Bishop" Robinson and the Goodridge decision are the logical culmination of what those guys set in motion, and we haven't seen the end yet.

The culmination of what they set into motion is the United States of America. This country was founded on Protestant Chritian values. I realize this and I was raised Roman Catholic. Do you think for one minute there would have been any American revolution if Britain and her subjects were still a majority Roman Catholic? I don't think so. Protestantism decentralized Christian Theology and worship. Which then culminated into a yearning for decentralized government. Our problem today is that we did not keep to the Founding Fathers' plans. That is the root cause of today's problems.
45 posted on 11/25/2003 10:30:59 AM PST by stig
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To: Paladin2b
"Indeed. I just wish all the Protestants who still celebrate the "heroism" of folks like Luther, Calvin and Zwingli would realize that "Bishop" Robinson and the Goodridge decision are the logical culmination of what those guys set in motion, and we haven't seen the end yet."

Don't buy into the trap the author has laid to divide true Christians. Please note that the author of this article is a Jesuit priest. The Catholic church has serious problems with homosexuality within the Priesthood.
62 posted on 11/25/2003 3:41:50 PM PST by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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