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Eid sparks soul-searching in Turkey after bombs
Reuters ^ | 25 Nov 2003 | Claudia Parsons

Posted on 11/25/2003 12:15:20 PM PST by yonif

ISTANBUL, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Two young women sit side by side in the waiting room of Haydarpasa station in Istanbul, waiting for a train to take them home to celebrate the Eid al-Fitr holiday at the end of Ramadan with their families.

One, a 24-year-old university student named Sibel Ates, wears jeans, ear-rings and make-up. The other wears an all-encompassing black chador covering her hair and body.

These are the two faces of European Union-candidate Turkey -- an overwhelmingly Muslim country which has been a secular state for more than half a century and which gave the vote to women in 1934, before many European countries.

Four suicide bombings which killed more than 50 people, most of them Muslims, have shocked a country that is often held up by Washington as a shining example of a moderate Muslim democracy.

From the border with Iran in the east to the cosmopolitan metropolis of Istanbul in the west, many Turks are asking themselves how fellow Muslims could have done such a thing as the end of the holiest month in the Muslim calendar approached.

"They killed our own citizens so people are shocked," Ates said. The constant refrain is: "Muslims wouldn't do that."

"It's sinful what these people did. They are not Muslims, no Muslim would murder another person and leave their families to mourn," said 23-year-old Nuriye, lining up with her husband and children at a pay-phone to call her relatives in eastern Turkey.

A few go further, raising conspiracy theories that U.S. or Israeli spies were behind the attacks.

"Coming up with conspiracy theories is the easiest way for us Muslims to escape responsibility," said an editorial in Hurriyet amid national soul-searching at this year's holiday.

Muslim prayer leaders used Tuesday's Eid, or Bayram, sermon to condemn terrorism in the wake of the bombs that targeted two synagogues, the British consulate and London-based HSBC bank.

"Terror, violence and anarchy have no connection whatsoever with Islam," Anatolian news agency quoted the sermon as saying. "Our religion clearly outlaws any kind of anarchy, sedition, enmity, cruelty, torture, terror or violence."

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Islam had nothing to do with terrorism. "I cannot stand it when I hear the phrase Islamic terrorism," he said at a traditional Bayram breakfast.

A statement purporting to come from an al Qaeda unit claimed responsibility for the attacks which were also claimed by a small Turkish Islamist group acting in the name of al Qaeda.

"They are the Taliban of Turkey, very marginal, a very small minority," Milliyet newspaper columnist Sami Kohen told Reuters.

"Police estimate they are just a handful, just 200-300 supporters of this movement. But you don't need a large army to do this nowadays."

SECULARISM PROVOKES RADICALS

NATO-member Turkey's close links with Washington and Israel made it a target for Islamist extremists. But Kohen said equally important was its status as a secular state founded on strict principles outlawing any moves towards Islamic Sharia law.

Kohen said the Islamic Great Eastern Raiders Front (IBDA-C), the obscure Turkish group that has claimed the bombings, made a habit of attacking monuments to Turkey's founding father Mustafa Kemal Ataturk during the 1980s.

"From the point of view of the Islamic society these people are trying to create, Turkey is a secular society, an open society," said Ilter Turan, professor of political science at Bilgi University in Istanbul.

"Even during the month of Ramadan places to eat are open, there's no police out to make sure you don't eat," Turan said. "Some of the youth in neighbouring countries are rather attracted by what Turkey has to offer. Turkey will have been seen as a corrupting influence."

The picture he paints fits Istanbul and other cities. It is less true to the reality of life in southeastern Turkey, in towns such as Bingol where the bombers came from.

In villages near the Iranian and Iraqi borders women are barely seen out alone on the street and while girls are officially guaranteed the same educational opportunities as boys, they are often married young and denied by their families the chance to work.

"In the sense of what you might call sociological secularism, there are parts of Turkey where this secularism has probably not advanced far enough but formal secularism is well established," Turan said.

Despite the exclusion of religion from politics, religion is firmly controlled by the state's Religious Affairs Directorate.

"The imams and other religious people are on the state payroll. They're considered to be civil servants," Kohen said.

Even wearing a headscarf is banned for civil servants and university students, a ban that has caused some discomfort for Erdogan whose grassroots supporters are religious conservatives.

"All these are ramifications of this basic problem, how secular can a country be and what is in practice the meaning of secularism," Kohen said.

While Turkey grapples with that question, its image abroad has been deeply tarnished. As carpet seller Ilhan Yuksel put it: "Most people just think of Muslims when they think of Turkey. Now they think we are barbarians."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eid; islam; istanbulbombings; ramadan2003; terrorvictim; turkey; turkeytrouble
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1 posted on 11/25/2003 12:15:22 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
I try to email the respective embassy when a terrorist attack happens. This is the email I got back from the Turkish Ambassador (to date the only reply I've ever received):



Dear Ms. XXXXXXX,


Thank you for your kind concern in the wake of the acts of terror in Istanbul that took the lives of over 50 innocent persons and wounded 750 more. Your reaching out to our Embassy and thus to the Turkish people at this trying hour is greatly appreciated. The scourge of terror can only be defeated through the joint effort of all nations.


O. Faruk Logoglu

Ambassador

2 posted on 11/25/2003 12:26:21 PM PST by eyespysomething (I love my husband!!! Just thought I'd share that.)
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To: yonif
" Eid" holyday?

What are they celebrating. Their prophet doing another virgin? A truely sick religion...
3 posted on 11/25/2003 12:49:42 PM PST by observer5
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To: observer5
I believe it is the holiday which marks the end of Ramadan.
4 posted on 11/25/2003 12:55:54 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: a_Turk
Ping.
5 posted on 11/25/2003 12:56:17 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: observer5
Look at what you wrote, and then tell me who is sick..
6 posted on 11/25/2003 3:50:08 PM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: yonif
Thanks for the ping..
7 posted on 11/25/2003 3:56:41 PM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: Shermy; aristotleman; prairiebreeze; Dog Gone; alethia; AM2000; ARCADIA; ...
ping
8 posted on 11/25/2003 4:07:47 PM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: eyespysomething
Thank you. We really value your concern. Let's work together to stamp out this satanic scourge.
9 posted on 11/25/2003 4:08:45 PM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: a_Turk
Police estimate they are just a handful, just 200-300 supporters of this movement. But you don't need a large army to do this nowadays

But it helps to have a state-paymaster.

10 posted on 11/25/2003 4:27:08 PM PST by Shermy
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To: a_Turk
It's a pretty far stretch for any conspiracist to opine that Israel or America bombed synagogues or the British Consultate.

Prairie
11 posted on 11/25/2003 5:05:50 PM PST by prairiebreeze ("The hope that danger has passed is comforting, is understandable, and it is FALSE! "~~GWBush)
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To: prairiebreeze
You don't have to be a genius to figure out that it was the US and Israel who schemed to bomb Istanbul, but you do have to be in denial.

Far as I'm concerned there are more Americans who congure up conspiracy theories like that, and who balme Bush, Blair, and Sharon for the terror, than there are Turks in existance..

Then again, who cares what a few silly people think. They are bakers, grocers, and carpeting salesmen at best, and that's as far as their reach goes.

And no matter what they say out loud, deep inside they know the truth they'd rather not admit.

Sort of like a deluded bastard who claims his mother's not a whore..
12 posted on 11/25/2003 5:10:33 PM PST by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, and Justice..)
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To: a_Turk
The imams seemed to have figured this out quickly enough. Let's see how this resonates with the arabs.
13 posted on 11/25/2003 11:19:38 PM PST by aristotleman
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To: yonif
One, a 24-year-old university student named Sibel Ates, wears jeans, ear-rings and make-up. The other wears an all-encompassing black chador covering her hair and body.

This is Turkey's gift to the world, and Ataturk's gift as well. This is hope for the middle east.

14 posted on 11/25/2003 11:58:15 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
One, a 24-year-old university student named Sibel Ates, wears jeans, ear-rings and make-up.

These days a lot of young men in Istanbul also wear ear-rings in a pathetic attempt to imitate the West.

15 posted on 11/26/2003 12:04:45 AM PST by Allan
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To: Allan
Not really. There were Ottoman Sultans who wore earings as well. Eventhough I guess you are referring to punk rockers, heavy metal people, ravers,etc. Besides, where's the correlation between liking a certain kind of music and immitating the West. Are people who listen to Blues music trying to 'pathetically immitate African Americans'?
16 posted on 11/26/2003 8:18:13 AM PST by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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To: Turk2
These days I don't think there are too many young Turkish men trying to imitate Ottoman sultans.

I guess it's a matter of taste
but one of the things to which I look forward getting out of North America and travelling East
is
not seeing young men wearing ear-rings or with hair dyed blue.

Fortunately
outside of Istanbul and Ankara
these fashions have not taken hold much in the rest of Turkey.

17 posted on 11/26/2003 9:23:33 AM PST by Allan
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To: a_Turk
Islam is a sick religion concocted by a pathological fraud monster.
18 posted on 11/27/2003 5:38:54 PM PST by observer5
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To: a_Turk
Soon the world will be forced to recognize that Mohammad was a fraud, a mass murderer and a rapist.
19 posted on 11/27/2003 5:41:34 PM PST by observer5
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To: a_Turk
And no matter what they say out loud, deep inside they know the truth they'd rather not admit.

I feel kind of sorry for them.

Blessings upon you and yours this Holiday. Stay safe.

20 posted on 11/27/2003 5:48:19 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I shot an arrow in the air. / Where it falls I do not care. / I buy my arrows wholesale)
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