Lawyer says he, Jackson secretly taped on plane

CNN ^ | 11/25/2003 | CNN Staff

[spectre]

Oh this is just too much fun already. Mark Geragos has his nerve suggesting other people are in this "for the money". He must be concerned there won't be all those millions left for his salary... PS...Jim..thank you so much for the spell check!!

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[Doe Eyes]

Wouldn't it be just if the FBI were taping Geragos for obstruction of justice going back years ?

The only way to get this country back on track is for the government to prosectute lawyers that defend guilty people.

[John Beresford Tipton]

"The only way to get this country back on track is for the government to prosectute lawyers that defend guilty people."


Gee, read the 6th amendment lately?
Read anything lately?
Ever read anything?

[Dante3]

At this point I believe the whole taping incident is staged by Geragos as a distraction and to provide him with an excuse for a press conference and get his face into every home.

Weren't there rumors that Geragos defended Susan McDougall in exchange for sex?

[OldFriend]

More likely Geragos leaked the story of the upset MJ wanting to fly to South America, then followed it up with these tapes of his calmness himself.

[elli1]

"According to at least one site on the net, Anthony Pellicano's office is in Beverly Hills. Could it be his?"

It's not Pellicano. I read another article & the guy's name is Bradley somebody--Miller, I think.

[Doe Eyes]

Ever read anything?

Excuse me, but I read Newsmax.com every day!

[freekitty]

No, Mr. XtraJet Person, not all business people would explore what you call an opportunity.

[Arpege92]

"Oh, yes, a 45 year old man sleeping with little boys, so perfectly normal, he is just being slammed for financial motives.... NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Actually he is being slammed because he's black...no wait...he's white...no wait...what color is he again?

[slim mackerel]

I smell some Clintonism here. Remember all the leaks (spread by the Clintons of course) in 1999 about BC's grand jury testimony video? The rumor was that his behavior was damaging and he got all flustered and angry at the grand jury. Tape is finally shown and voila! Nothing of the sort happened. Made the impeachment crowd look stupid.

I think there's the possibility that Geragos and Jackson either arranged to have the tape made, or, knowing that they were being taped (probably said so in the charter agreement), leaked the rumor that Michael was throwing fits on the plane to make him seem perfectly normal later and further blur the central issue.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Oh man, just picture it....a Michael Jackson pinata!

WHAP!!!!

[John Beresford Tipton]

"The only way to get this country back on track is for the government to prosectute lawyers that defend guilty people."

Try casting your doe eyes over the,
"Sixth Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to... have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence"

it doesn't say that if a lawyer defends someone that he can risk going to jail if he loses.

[Freee-dame]

I think the Clinton story was actually about his behavior at his deposition,, not the Grand Jury

I think it was the deposition for the Grand Jury. I remember the rumors of the red-faced Clinton storming out. Ex41 was so cold and calculating. The dumb attorneys let him take breaks, give speeches instead of answer questions, stop for soft drinks and then, just as the questions from the Grand Jurors started, Clinton's lawyers said, so sorry the time we promised you is over.

There certainly weren't any Dem senators coming out the next day apologizing for Ex41's behavior....like Sen. Hatch did today on the memo leak.

[hole_n_one]

Well done, grasshopper.

[little jeremiah]

It is illegal for a defense attorney to defend someone as innocent when he knows the defendent is lying and guilty. IOW (I ain't good at legalese) a defense attorney who knows his client "did it" and claims the perp innocent is committing a crime as well. So from what I've heard, defense attorneys sometimes don't want to hear anything the defendent says in regards to their guilt.

Different if they're doing an insanity defense or ameliorating circumstances.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

Putting both parts of your #22 together, I really think that you were being funny- but humor does not go over well on FR unless there is a silly "sarcasm" tag or a "wink" made out of punctuation symbols attached to it.

I have the same "problem"- people are always trying to flame me for my sarcastic posts- which they read superficially and take seriously.

I have a LOT of fun with them!

[Calpernia]

>>>>The only part I cant find yet is who or what owns CARCORP.


"CARCORP"

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2 Registrants (Public Companies / Funds, Significant Individuals / Owners, et al.)
First Filing Last Filing Name Symbol Regulator

11/14/1 11/14/3 Carcorp USA Corp [ now Elite Flight Solutions Inc ] U.S. SEC

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Gregory Love"
Latest Filing: 11/14/3 as Signatory

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As: Signatory (Director, Officer, Attorney, Accountant, Banker, Agent, etc.)
List All Filings as Signatory

Search Recent Filings (as Signatory) for "Gregory Love"
"Gregory Love" has been a Signatory for/with the following Registrant:
Elite Flight Solutions Inc [ formerly Carcorp USA Corp ]

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SECURITY OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN BENEFICIAL OWNERS

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AMOUNT AND NATURE
NAME AND OF BENEFICIAL PERCENTAGE OF
TITLE OF CLASS ADDRESS OF BENEFICIAL OWNER OWNERSHIP CLASS (1)

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Common Amber Run LLC 6,489,934 5.48%
2033 Main Street - Suite 600
Sarasota, FL 34237

Common Paradise Run LLC (3) 16,792,014 36.30%
5550 Bee Ridge Road - Suite e-3
Sarasota, FL 34232

Common Cornell Capital Partners, L.P. 5,178,300(2) 9.99%
101 Hudson Street - Suite 3606
Jersey City, NJ 07302

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[John Beresford Tipton]

"It is illegal for a defense attorney to defend someone as innocent when he knows the defendent is lying and guilty."

That is incorrect. Remember in a criminal trial the defendant does not have to prove he's *innocent*, rather the state has to prove he is guilty.

So the defense attorney can move to supress evidence, tear into and impeach witnesses, argue that the state has not met its burden of proof, do any of those things. Indeed, not only is it legal, it is his ethical duty if he undertakes a defense. To do less and he could be disbarred.

There is a line and this is it: If he knows that the defendant is going to perjure himself, he can't put him on the stand to do it. But that often is not a big drawback, because if he did put him on the stand his priors might come in.

"I've heard, defense attorneys sometimes don't want to hear anything the defendent says in regards to their guilt."

That is correct, the lawyer is not the judge and jury. It is up to the state to provide the evidence of his guilt. If they can't do that they cannot get a conviction.

[sarasmom]

Defending a guilty person against improper prosecution is one thing.

Entirely ignoring the guilt of the defendant,in order to "win" a fight against law and justice for the guilty client may be the popular view of the role of a lawyer,but it is not the correct role of a lawyer.

Lawyers without ethics have made our legal system what it is today, a mockery of justice.

At some point, this insanity must stop.
It may take amother revolution, but it must stop.

The first non-violent grassroots effort to affect change is to vote NO, on every single judicial retention election, every time.
The next step is to never ellect anyone with a law degree to any position of power, anytime, anywhere, for any office.

[Bad~Rodeo]

Wot a Moron...LOL~....Only thing you have going Mark is a penis pump....LOL~..."We've also filed suit ... against the airline company, and we reserve the right to file suit against anyone and everyone who is remotely connected with what I think is one of the most outrageous acts that I've ever seen in my 20 years of practicing criminal law," Geragos told reporters in Los Angeles.

Jack-Ass Jocko...L~....RaceHorse....VEG~