Lawyer says he, Jackson secretly taped on plane

CNN ^ | 11/25/2003 | CNN Staff

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

"...vote NO, on every single judicial retention election, every time."

I have been doing that, and counseling others to do it, for years. The good judges will do just fine in the "private sector" for awhile- and we need to get rid of the bad ones altogether.

Too bad that this problem is just not on most folks radar screen at all.

[elli1]

From what I found, Xtrajet is owned by some guy named "Jeff" who likes racing Porsches & is a Vietnam veteran pilot.

This info is what I would call "shakey", but here's the addy:

http://www.ghettoracer.com/cars/porsche/gt3-rs/

[ErnBatavia]

A tabloid reported that Jacko went crazy on the flight, demanding diversion to South America, etc. If true, any tapes of his ride would make for interesting viewing. Pass the popcorn.

I'd (maybe) pay a buck or two to see that...A wigged-out little bitch panicky demanding his charter pilot to take him to Brazil.

This whole thing shows how nuts society has become.

[Calpernia]

Bump! Bump! Bump! Excellent post Sarasmom!

>>>>The first non-violent grassroots effort to affect change is to vote NO, on every single judicial retention election, every time.

I didn't understand this though. Mind explaining? I don't care if it is here or in freep mail.

[John Beresford Tipton]

"ignoring the guilt of the defendant,in order to "win" a fight against law and justice for the guilty client ... is not the correct role of a lawyer."

For hundreds of years the English common law had, and has given us what is called an "adverserial" system. In such a system it is the lawyer's duty to zealously represent his client, it is his correct role. His role is not to act as finder of fact, that is for the judge/jury.

Now other countries have other systems for finding facts at a trial, like the French do.
Perhaps you would be more comfortable under their system rather than under ours?

[Bad~Rodeo]

The good judges will do just fine in the "private sector" for awhile- and we need to get rid of the bad ones altogether.

Profund statement..... We're Working on C.E.O's.....JUDGES AND LAWYERS NEXT!!!

[ErnBatavia]

Hey! Welcome to FR...now, you need to take the Turkey Day break and do the right thing; create an "about page" and get sucked deeper in.......

[Bad~Rodeo]

oopsie....Profound.........(blushing)....L~

[MississippiMan]

How did you get from XtraJet to CARCORP?

MM

[Solamente]

"Michael Jackson is not going to be abused. Michael Jackson is not going to be slammed, is not going to be a pinata for every person who has financial motives," Geragos said.

"That Money is reserved for his lawyers!"

[Hildy]

XtraJet should be ashamed of themselves and I'm sure they will lose plenty of business because of this. I think it's outrageous and probably illegal.

[Chantal]

except the action is between Jackson and Garagos.

let's hope these two were not holding hands. LOL

Maybe Geragos had someone install the video himself so he can cry abuse.

[RANGERAIRBORNE]

It is often quite fascinating to see where these threads lead. There is a sort of "random walk" effect in these eposts, which possibly could be statistically quantified.

Anyway, who would have thought that a story about a (probably bogus) taping of Michael Jackson would lead to a serious discussion of the proper role of a defense attorney in our legal system?

For the record, I sat and listened to a woman at voir dire, last year when I was called for jury dury in a criminal trial, who absolutely COULD NOT GRASP the idea that the State has to PROVE guilt (and the defendant does not HAVE to "prove" his innocence. She was instructed by the judge several times in this fairly elementary principle- but was finally sent away, still believing that "If the police arrest somebody, then he must be guilty of SOMETHING".

Pretty scary.

[TexKat]

According to at least one site on the net, Anthony Pellicano's office is in Beverly Hills. Could it be his?

I believe it was stated on The Factor this evening that the private detectives name is Bradley G. Miller.

[John Beresford Tipton]

It shows up most clearly at the end of the government's case when the defense moves for acquittal. It is "So what, they haven't met their burden, and no reasonable jury could find that they had".

Sometimes the motion is granted, defense never having to put on a case.

[Betty Jo]

go to

http://www.xtrajet.com

see at the bottom "American Air Network "

Go from there down the list in my post # 12

The connection winds up in CARCORP, which is mainly a car loan thing, much like "Title Loans of America",owned by the mob-MALNIK.

Since Michael Jackson = mob+Malnik, I smell a rat.

[Doe Eyes]

I have a LOT of fun with them!

Me too. I'm hoping that people will think a little more about what they post.

[MississippiMan]

Gotcha, Betty.

MM

[rose]

I am suspicisous of the Jackson team and lawyers putting the cameras in. Remember all the delaying when he would return. It was the next day he returned. They are smart people, then they could use the expose' as they are doing?
Food for thought. This was my first reaction to the episode.

[rose]

-I just posted something similar, yours and what I posted were my first reaction to what is going on.