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U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, `It is war'
SFgate ^ | (11-25) 10:26 PST PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- | DAVID B. CARUSO

Posted on 11/26/2003 9:53:19 AM PST by ConservativeMan55

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

U.S. soldier accused of beating Iraqi prisoners says, `It is war'

One of four American MPs charged with beating prisoners of war at a detention camp in Iraq said Tuesday: "We were doing our jobs. ... It is war. It is not back home where everybody is safe."


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KEYWORDS: beating; iraq; mp; police; pow; staff; war
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To: ConservativeMan55
More info here

All say they acted in self-defense and used minimum force to subdue unruly prisoners who had attacked them. The soldiers also said conditions at Camp Bucca were chaotic and that guards were being assaulted by prisoners daily.

The soldiers' families said they plan to travel to Kuwait for the court martial. McKenzie's mother, Carolyn Lachemayer, said she expects to see her son acquitted. "He has been in the military 18 years, and has a spotless record," she said. "He would never beat anyone up for fun, like they've said."

21 posted on 11/26/2003 10:17:43 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe (Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Come on the LAPD, NYPD,Detroit and Chicago PDs put ona better azz whoopin' then any of these GIs ...and thats on "suspects" not terrorists...imo we ought to send all terrorists back to Detroit for interogation..

22 posted on 11/26/2003 10:18:43 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: LetsRok
How do you know that its revenge?

How in the sam hill do you know that she wasn't defending herself from an attack by a prisoner?
23 posted on 11/26/2003 10:20:15 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Thanks for the link.
24 posted on 11/26/2003 10:20:38 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Not yet. She would have to criticize and blame President Bush, VP Cheney, or SoD Rumsfeld

Or she could cry and curl up in a ball and say she was scared. The media likes that. "See what this bad war (and President) is doing to our women...."

25 posted on 11/26/2003 10:21:23 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe (Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
Pretty much as long as she comes out against America she will be loved by the left. Scratch that..would be used by the left.
26 posted on 11/26/2003 10:25:23 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I don't see how this could prevent her from becoming a police officer? depends on the character of her discharge. If it is other than honorable, many government jobs do not hire them. Also, if a company has any federal contracts, they are barred from hiring anyone dishonorably discharged.
27 posted on 11/26/2003 10:26:05 AM PST by ibheath (Born-again and grateful to God for it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
It is war and shi'ite happens!
28 posted on 11/26/2003 10:26:29 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
Thats right!
29 posted on 11/26/2003 10:27:31 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
And just why would we have 'wiped these bastards from the face of the earth' 40-50 years ago?
30 posted on 11/26/2003 10:28:30 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: ConservativeMan55
She doesn't deserve to be treated like this by the military.

What a friggen sham. Clinton legacy action here. None of these soldiers did anything wrong.

So what if they were smacking around a few heathen muslims. Why should anyone care? They probably deserved it.

Instead of screaming, the prisoners that were supposedly "beaten" should have been praying to Allah that their tongues were not being hacked out of their mouths.

31 posted on 11/26/2003 10:28:35 AM PST by BeerSwillr
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To: ConservativeMan55
Good article

Just so that you can feel the evil of the four accused: Girman, 35, a state police officer stationed in Monroe County, served in Desert Storm and was wounded; Staff Sgt. Scott McKenzie volunteered to serve in both Bosnia and Korea so married reservists wouldn't have to go; Sgt. Shawna Edmondson is a security officer at the University of Scranton and Spc. Tim Canjar is 21 years old and enlisted after 9-11. Real tough hombres compared to the abused Iraqis.

32 posted on 11/26/2003 10:28:47 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe (Take my advice; I don't use it anyway.)
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To: Trust but Verify
If they had pulled a 911 attack 40-50 years ago. Don't you think we would have responded with a little more force?
33 posted on 11/26/2003 10:29:07 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
8000 to 100. Sounds like a perfectly logical ratio if you are a blind pc advocate. Read in a newspaper the 21 year old
who supposedly broke the prisoner's nose had his uniform taken and there was no (NO) blood on it. More and more I am getting the impression this is a grudge case. **it rolls down hill. timesleader.com has letters in editorial section. Tried to link but failed. Will I never learn???
34 posted on 11/26/2003 10:29:38 AM PST by battleax
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To: Lijahsbubbe
I can feel the evil....lol.
35 posted on 11/26/2003 10:29:46 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: battleax
Thats very interesting. So a prisoner who was supposedly screaming for his life didn't even bleed?
36 posted on 11/26/2003 10:30:55 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
Eventually...when the police forces are privatized...she would be a welcome addition to my company!

Darned right, whether privatized or public! The cops got this one down during the pro-life sit-ins. You put them in cuffs, then you beat the $*!t out of them! For good measure, charge them with resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer! This lady obviously is getting in practice for stateside duty.

37 posted on 11/26/2003 10:34:37 AM PST by findingtruth
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To: ConservativeMan55
That's not what you said. I don't know what would've been done back then and neither do you. You aren't by any chance one of the 'Nuke Mecca and Medina' brigade, are you?

I'll just say that if these attacks were unprovoked, then these soldiers were dead wrong.

38 posted on 11/26/2003 10:35:52 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: r9etb
Easy for you to say.

Where are you?

Where was she?

Where are you?

'Nuff said.
39 posted on 11/26/2003 10:36:02 AM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO. I'm far too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: findingtruth
LOL!
40 posted on 11/26/2003 10:36:17 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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