Canada preparing to enforce Islamic law -

World Net Daily ^ | November 27, 2003

[UnklGene]

GLOBAL JIHAD

Canada preparing to enforce Islamic law -

Judges will give legal sanction to disputes between Muslims

Posted: November 27, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Canadian judges soon will be enforcing Islamic law, or Sharia, in disputes between Muslims, possibly paving the way to one day administering criminal sentences, such as stoning women caught in adultery.

Muslims are required to submit to Sharia in Muslim societies but are excused in nations where they live as a minority under a non-Muslim government.

Delegates elect council to set up Islamic Institute of Civil Justice (Canadian Law Times)

Canada, however, is preparing for its 1 million-strong Muslim minority to be under the authority of a Sharia system enforced by the Canadian court system, according to the Canadian Law Times.

Muslim delegates at a conference in Etobicoke, Ont., in October elected a 30-member council to establish the Islamic Institute of Civil Justice.

The institute is classified in Islamic law as a Darul-Qada, or judicial tribunal. Its bylaws are scheduled to be drafted and approved by Dec. 31.

Cases will be decided by a Muslim arbitrator, but the local secular Canadian court will be the enforcer.

One of the obstacles to establishing the system, the Law Times said, has been the Muslim communities' lack of unity and organizational strength. Muslims in Canada come from many different countries and different schools of Islam. Also, there are few Islamic legal scholars, known as ulama, in North America, which are essential to adjudicating complex issues.

"It seems as if the community was looking forward to something like this," says organizer B. Husain Bhayat, according to the Law Times. "If all groups are represented, with hard work and the unity we saw here, we will have no difficulty going forward."

The two main streams of Islam, Sunni and Shi'ite, were represented at the conference, along with imams and leaders of organizations.

[Paleo Conservative]

But what if a Muslim does not want to be tried in a sharia court?

[Walkingfeather]

Okay write off canada.... too late did that already.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Western leadership constitutes a null class.

[section9]

ARE PEOPLE NUCKING FUTS IN THAT COUNTRY?

Jesus Christ on the Cross! I thought I would never see this. Yet ANOTHER reason for the PC/Alliance people to either take back Canada or join the Union.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[SamiGirl]

This is a joke, right?

[openotherend]

And I thought France would be first. Silly me!

[dpa5923]

Please post the link to the actual story not the WND home page. I cannot find the story and would like to verify this before I believe it.

[ChicagoHebrew]

No offense, but I don't take much stock in this article. What I suspect is actually happening is that the Canadian Islamic community is organizing Sharia courts for the purposes of setting up binding arbitration panels. These would only be enforceable if Muslims contract to settle their disputes through Sharia arbiration.

The same thing happens in the US all the time-- US courts routinely enforce Jewish law, Sharia, anything-- if both parties agree. For example, if I sign a contract to buy something from you, and place in the contract the phrase "all disputes shall be decided under Jewish Law by the Sephardic Beit Din of Flatbush" -- and we then have a disagreement, then the Beit Din (Jewish religious court) will rule on the matter under Jewish Law. Should one party refuse to go along with Beit Din's opinion, then one can sue in secular court-- and the secular court will issue an order enforcing Beit Din's rule. It's quite common actually.

[headsonpikes]

Bump your seemingly intemperate sentiments!

[Cicero]

I suppose there's one good thing about this. It's so far out and crazy it may bring the whole crazy Canadian justice system crashing into ruin.

It might sober people up, for instance, if they start stoning women to death for dating infidels on Canadian TV.

[sailor4321]

Imagine what this will do to Canada's crime rate when they start "behanding" thieves and beheading drug smugglers! Also, it will open up business opportunities in the US for those willing to risk being stoned to death in the event they are caught smuggling liquor into Canada. Oh! The possibilities opened up by implementation of a pre-medieval legal system in Canada are endless! :))

[lilylangtree]

Good grief! Does that mean the US judges will follow suit? They seem to be following Canadian lead in other judicial matters. When are the non-Muslim countries going to stand up and tell these fanatic islamics that if you're in my country you follow our laws. When non-islamics are in Islamic countries, the non-Islamics have to follow that nation's laws or get thrown out or die from a mob. Why in heaven's name are the non-islamics countries like Canada and France and eventually the US kowtowing to these crazies? I'm outraged!

[ElkGroveDan]

Uh what happens if you shoplift at a Vancouver 7-11 and the owner wants to take you to his court? Will American tourists be looking at Candian government sanctioned amputations down the road?

[SoCal Pubbie]

Thank you for clarifying this point. The article just could not be accepted on face value.

[Cicero]

Good point. But Jewish law is something most people can accept. It's unlikely that Jews will sign a contract agreeing to be stoned for adultery, even though the Bible mentions stoning as the correct penalty for certain offenses; whereas I wouldn't put it past a Sharia Court to start enforcing such laws. After all, they are doing it in many other countries right now: stoning, cutting off hands and heads, and so forth.

[UnklGene]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35850

Da link.

[ChicagoHebrew]

In the U.S., the authority of binding arbitration panels is limited to settling contract disputes, issuing fines, issuing injunctions, and resolving custody issues in divorces. The panels have no authority (even with consent) to engage in outright criminal conduct-- such as throwing rocks at someone or chopping off their hands. Just like one, under US law, cannot consent to having surgery performed on you by an unlicensed doctor-- even if you know he's unlicensed and agree to it.

The reason is quite simple-- the government must ensure that it has a monopoly on the use of force.

I would be shocked if Canada is giving their binding arbitration panels the authority to engage in what is effectively criminal punishments. This article was the first I've heard of these courts at all. Again, what I suspect is happening is that they are setting up and recognizing these panels. Then some Islamo-phobe writer on WND is rambling on, without facts, at how evil Canada is.

[nightdriver]

"When are the non-Muslim countries going to stand up and tell these fanatic islamics that if you're in my country you follow our laws."

Good question!

Ask that in light of our own USSC justice, Sandra Day O'Connor, when she pontificates that the American judicial system has to adapt to legal decisions made in foreign countries.

[yankeedame]

But what if a Muslim does not want to be tried in a sharia court?

Good point! I hadn't thought of that, and neither, I suspect, have those movers-and-shakers in Canada.

And what if it's a case of Muslim vs. Non/Ex.Muslim? Whose "law" is this case tried by? After all, like the saying goes: "When two ride a horse only one can ride in front."