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Scholars of Twang Track All the 'Y'Alls' in Texas
NY Times ^ | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 11/28/2003 6:06:42 AM PST by Pharmboy


Michael Stravato for The New York Times
John O. Greer is an architecture teacher at
Texas A&M University. But when a couple of
researchers sat down and talked with him recently,
they were less interested in what he said than
in how he said it.

COLLEGE STATION, Tex. — "Are yew jus' tryin' to git me to talk, is that the ah-deah?"

That was the idea. John O. Greer, an architecture teacher at Texas A&M University, sat at his dining table between two interrogators and their tape recorder. They had precisely 258 questions for him. But it waddn what he said that interested them most. It was how he said it.

Those responses, part of an ambitious National Geographic Society survey of Texas speech, with its "y'alls," "might-coulds" and "fixin' to's," are helping language investigators throw a scientific light on a mythologized and sometimes ridiculed mainstay of Americana: the Texas twang.

Among the unexpected findings, said Guy Bailey, a linguistics professor at the University of Texas at San Antonio and a leading scholar in the studies with his wife, Jan Tillery, is that in Texas more than elsewhere, how you talk says a lot about how you feel about your home state.

"Those who think Texas is a good place to live adopt the flat `I' — it's like the badge of Texas," said Dr. Bailey, 53, provost and executive vice president of the university and a transplanted Alabamian married to a Lubbock native, also 53.

So if you love Texas, they say, be fixin' to say "naht" for "night," "rahd" for "ride" and "raht" for "right."

And by all means say "all" for "oil."

In addition to quickly becoming enamored of Western garb like cowboy boots and hats, big-buckled belts, western shirts and vests, newcomers to the state — and there are a lot of them — are especially likely to adopt the lingo pronto.

At the same time, the speech of rural and urban Texans is diverging, Dr. Bailey said. Texans in Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth and San Antonio are sounding more like other Americans and less like their fellow Texans in Iraan, Red Lick or Old Glory.

Indeed, Dr. Tillery and Dr. Bailey wrote in a recent paper called "Texas English," a new dialect of Southern American English may be emerging on the West Texas plains. It is not what a linguist might expect, they wrote, "but this is Texas, and things are just different here."

The changes are being tracked by researchers for the two San Antonio linguists, who are working with scholars from Oklahoma State University and West Texas A&M in Canyon, outside Amarillo, under the sponsorship of the National Geographic Society. They divided Texas into 116 squares and are interviewing four native Texans spanning four age groups— from the 20's to the 80's, in each.

As part of the latest effort, two master's students in linguistics from the University of North Texas at Denton, Amanda Aguilar, 24, and Brooke Earheardt, 23, arranged recently to record Mr. Greer, 70, as he responded to an exhaustive 31-page questionnaire.

Ms. Aguilar first probed some of Mr. Greer's attitudes toward Texas. Was it a barren state?

"It's in the ahs of the beholder," responded Mr. Greer, who was born in Port Arthur. The state, he said, was "dee-vahded, you kin almost draw a lahn."

Was it a progressive state?

"Compared to who?" he said. "Califohnia? Baghdad? Ah'd have to say Texas is a progressive state."

Distinctive?

"Most are distinctive in their own way," he said, smiling, "with the possible exception of Ah-wah." (That was Iowa.)

Next Ms. Aguilar quizzed Mr. Greer on a lexicon of Texas words and phrases. Had he ever heard the expression "y'all?"

Of course. "Ah think `you' sometimes just duddn't work bah itself."

Could you use it for just one person?

"Ah would trah to confahn it to the plural," he said. "It's just like `youse guys.' "

Had he heard "fixin' to?"

Of course again. " `Ahma' often goes with it," he said. "Ahma fixin' to go."

The questions and Mr. Greer's answers kept coming. A dragonfly? That's a "miskeeta hahk." A wishbone was a "pulleybone." A cowboy's rope was a lasso or a lariat, or just a "ropin' rope." A drought was worse than a "drah spell"; no rain, or "it haddn for a long tahm." You wait "for" a friend who haddn shown up, but you wait "on" someone who is nearby and delayed, perhaps upstairs putting on makeup.

Afterward, Ms. Aguilar and Ms. Earheardt said that Mr. Greer, though white, employed some noticeable African-American and Deep South speech patterns. There were also Spanish influences, common in Texas, where Spanish was widely spoken for nearly a hundred years before English.

Dr. Tillery and Dr. Bailey warned that it was possible to exaggerate the distinctiveness of Texas English because the state loomed so large in the popular imagination. Few speech elements here do not also appear elsewhere.

"Nevertheless," they wrote in their paper on Texas English, "in its mix of elements both from various dialects of English and from other languages, TXE is in fact somewhat different from other closely related varieties."

Perhaps the most striking finding, Dr. Tillery said, was the spread of the humble "y'all," ubiquitous in Texas as throughout the South. Y'all, once "you all" but now commonly reduced to a single word, sometimes even spelled "yall," is taking the country by storm, the couple reported in an article written with Tom Wikle of Oklahoma State University and published in 2000 in the Journal of English Linguistics. No one other word, it turns out, can do the job.

"Y'all" and "fixin' to" were also spreading fast among newcomers within the state, they said, particularly those who regard Texas fondly. Use of the flat `I,' they found, also correlated strikingly to a favorable view of Texas.

But they found some curious anomalies, as well.

One traditional feature of Texas and Southern speech — pronouncing the word "pen" like "pin," known as the pen/pin merger — is disappearing in the big Texas cities, while remaining common in rural areas, Dr. Tillery said. Texans in the prairie may shell out "tin cints," but not their metropolitan brethren.

Urban Texas is abandoning the "y" sound after "n," "d" and "t," exchanging dipthongs for monophthongs. So folks in the cities read a "noospaper" — what their rural counterparts call a "nyewspaper." They'll hum a "tyewn" on the range, a "toon" in Houston. The upgliding dipthong, too, is an endangered species in the cities, where a country "dawg" is just a dog.

Why city Texans, more than country folk, should disdain to write with a "pin" is not clear, although it seems that some pronunciations carry a stigma of unsophistication while others do not.

It was such mixed patterns that suggested the emergence of a new dialect on the West Texas plains, Dr. Tillery said.

Other idiosyncrasies have all but vanished over time. Texans for the most part no longer pray to the "Lard," replacing the "o" with an "a," or "warsh" their clothes. How the interloping "r" crept in remains an especially intriguing question, Dr. Bailey said. Trying to trace the peculiarity, he asked Texans to name the capital of the United States, often drawing the unhelpful answer "Austin."

The opposite syndrome, known as r-lessness, which renders "four" as "foah" in Texas and elsewhere, is easier to trace, Dr. Bailey said. In the early days of the republic, plantation owners sent their children to England for schooling. "They came back without the `r,' " he said.

"The parents were saying, listen to this, this is something we have to have, so we'll all become r-less," he said. The craze went down the East Coast from Boston to Virginia (skipping Philadelphia, for some reason) and migrating selectively around the country.

Other common Texas locutions that replace an "s" with a "d" — "bidness" for "business," "waddn" for "wasn't" — are simply matters of mechanical efficiency, Dr. Bailey said. "With `n' and `d' the tongue stays in the same position," he said. "It's ease of articulation."

So even "fixin' to" becomes "fidden to" or "fith'n to." And fixin' to — where did that come from, anyway?

"Who knows?" Dr. Bailey said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: allyall; dialects; linguistics; melungeon; messnwithtexas; yall
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To: Pharmboy
Can I also just say that I called a Washington D.C. federal agency one day, and I couldn't understand a single thing the young lady of African American descent who answered the phone was saying? Additionally, my luggage was lost as I arrived for some international travel in Asia a few years ago, and I spent a good amount of time dealing with the airline/airport employees there at the airport, and I dealt with them again as my bags were searched for the return trip. When I landed in San Francisco, I was stunned by my observation that the airport/airline employees in Asia spoke better, more clear, English than the ones of various ethnicities at the San Francisco airport!
41 posted on 11/28/2003 8:03:33 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Mr. Fox, give us our water!!!)
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To: Wisconsin
Did you find out anything about the origins of the population? Had they by chance come up from Central America somewhere?
42 posted on 11/28/2003 8:04:52 AM PST by wizardoz ("They're not Americans; they're Democrats." -NetValue)
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To: Pharmboy; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Texas ping
43 posted on 11/28/2003 8:08:08 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Happy B'day Tex!)
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To: lavrenti
The Melungeon "hearth" in southwestern Virginia and adjacent areas of North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky lies just south of the Upper Southern homeland of the Shenandoah Valley. While the Melungeons may have suffered discrimination in Appalachia, most of that was lost when they migrated westward. Elvis Presley and Abraham Lincoln were both partially of Melugeon ancestry.

In the last Texas governor's race, the "white" Republican candidate, Rick Perry (BTW, isn't Perry a common Melungeon name?) was darker complected than the "minority" Democrat candidate, Tony Sanchez, who was very obviously of the Caucasian race, with fair skin, blue eyes, and, at a younger age, light brown hair.

Where the Melungeons came from has never been settled. I have heard that Tay-Sachs disease, a marker of Jewish ethnicity, has been found among them. One particular Melungeon could have been used as a body double for Sadaam Hussein. Tay-Sachs disease has also been found among the Pennsylvania Dutch. There is the belief that some of the Amish and Mennonites may have been converted Jews. The scene in the movie "Witness" where the Amish boy, lost in the Philadelphia train station, finds a Hassidic Jew, thinking him to be a fellow Amishman, may be less ironic than the movie's producers thought.

44 posted on 11/28/2003 8:17:11 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: IronJack
I wonder when the Tahms will take such a in-depth look at the gibberish they speak in N'yawk.

Because it's too new. Until 150 years ago, the educated accent in New York, Philladelphia , or Boston was almost identical to an upper class Virginia accent, or an upper class English accent.

SO9

45 posted on 11/28/2003 8:17:32 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: Brandybux
My husbands father was born in Ellis Co. but they moved on. My mothers family settled in east Texas 2 years before Stephen F. Austin arrived with his colonist. We still have some family members living in the area where the original homeplace was located. They have some rural accents, want you to know! I of course, do not. ;9}
46 posted on 11/28/2003 8:19:49 AM PST by Ditter
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To: TalBlack
This has nothing to do with speech as such but note one section in your post: While the southern accents are often endearing, and, when spoken by, respectivly, men or woman are the eptoime of masculinity and feminity (Go figure), New Yorks phrases and accents seem to either baffle ("I could care less!") or amuse ("fuhgedabboudit" or"whaddayadointameovahheah").

I have always been puzzled by "I could care less" since it is illogical. What the speaker is actually trying to say is "I could NOT care less" to indicate that he or she is so indifferent to your plight that it is impossible for them to care anything at all.

47 posted on 11/28/2003 8:20:25 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
Thanks for the ping Georgia Boy...... y'all understand all about those great words like fixin to and woodja.....

"I'm fixin to go shoppin, woodja like to come along?"

48 posted on 11/28/2003 8:22:52 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: mylife
Yuns, or rather its variant, yins, is pretty common around Pittsburgh, the town that eastern Pennsylanians think is the largest city in West Virginia. Yuns/yins is a vestigal usage that in many areas, like the Missouri Ozarks, has been replaced by ya'll.
49 posted on 11/28/2003 8:23:03 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: hispanarepublicana
"I've always wondered just WHAT THE HELL IS THAT BAAHSTON ACCENT ABOUT, ANYWAY?"

An accent that nobody, NOBODY outside of natives can do properly in movies. It's also disappearing quite rapidly, but it's very old. If you read any of Paul Revere's original writing you can "hear" the accent even way back then, because Revere spelled words like he spoke them.

A true Boston accent is heard as far west as I-495, as far north as Salem, NH, and as far south as, say, New Bedfid. The crap that comes out of Ted Kennedy's mouth is not a Boston accent. Kennedy sounds like a picklesmootcher pretending to be from Harvard pretending to be Thurston Howell III.

50 posted on 11/28/2003 8:24:58 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Pharmboy
>"Y'all ain't from hair ayr ya?"

An anecdote-

During the late 80's I ran a Gov't office in several cities in South Texas. One gentleman working with me was born in Pennsylvania, but raised in England and Austrailia. He was a 'public school' man. (Means he went to private schools rather than public ones). His British accent was very thick and proper, but he was not a tight a**. Very funny guy actually.

We had to do a lot of investigation by telephone and this led to some humorous incidents. The most common one being, his calling and introducing himself followed by a very long pause. Then he invariably would respond with..."No...I am not from here". Eventually he would add that he was from Pennsylvania, that seemed to satisfy most folks.

51 posted on 11/28/2003 8:25:26 AM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: Pharmboy
My mother and her side of the family are from Texas. Try as she might, she can't stop calling a pen a pin. My dad is from southern Illinois, and his relatives all say warsh instead of wash.
52 posted on 11/28/2003 8:27:17 AM PST by usmom
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To: Pharmboy
So if you love Texas, they say, be fixin' to say "naht" for "night," "rahd" for "ride" and "raht" for "right."

Total BS.

53 posted on 11/28/2003 8:31:39 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: The_Victor
How 'bout a study of the "dialect" of the Kennedys and New Englanders who insist on saying "Aferker" and "Cuber"?
Drives me up a wall. Actually, I hear a lot of "Warsh" and "Warshington" in Pennsylvania.(And "din", as in "Din you know that?")
54 posted on 11/28/2003 8:32:26 AM PST by Winfield
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To: Servant of the 9
What the Eastern elites forget is that you do not eliminate a people by suppressing their language. Their British counterparts might remind them that Ireland gained her independence after the native Gaelic was virtually extinct, after centuries of settling Englishmen, Welshmen, and Scotsmen on the island, and after a system of state education was set up extolling English culture and history and ignoring Irish culture and history.

Even a South where most folks sound like Kansans or Indianans may still be filled with Southerners.

55 posted on 11/28/2003 8:34:36 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"I'm fixin to go shoppin, woodja like to come along?"

You couldn't melt me and pour me into a mall today.

56 posted on 11/28/2003 8:40:06 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Libs want to take my money, my guns, and my land....then sodimize me.)
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To: usmom
Try as she might, she can't stop calling a pen a pin.

Here's the odd thing, though. Everyone I know around here calls a writing pen a "pin", but pronounces the "pen" in "cattle pen" or "hog pen" properly.

57 posted on 11/28/2003 8:41:42 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Mr. Fox, give us our water!!!)
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To: B-Chan
The border between east Texas (where the Dixie dialect of Texan is spoken) and north Texas (where the Midwest dialect reigns) is at the junction of I-30E and the I-635 loop in Mesquite, Texas, immediately east of Dallas. Folks east of that point say "warsh" (wash) and "naw" (no), and call iced tea "ahhs tay". Further east, behind the Pine Curtain that separates east Texas proper from the rest of the state, the speech patterns are amost entirely those of the deep South: "yeller" for yellow, "cobeer" for beer, etc.

In Dallas proper, people tend to speak with a flat, midwestern inflection, and say "you guys" along with "y'all". In fact, the presence of the east Texas inflection in one's speech is taken as evidence that the speaker is a hick.

I myself am from Dallas and generally use the Midwest inflection. However, when I visit my family in Tyler, I begin to speak with the east Texas accent. I don't know why this is.

Truer words were never spoken. Although Tyler is barely East Texas. I move to Garland in August after having lived in Deep East Texas (Pineland then Jasper) for 9 years. The difference is night and day. I love it here.

It's not really a midwestern accent here in Dallas though. It's a Western accent as heard in Colorado (my home state), Arizona, California. A midwestern accent would be Jenny McCarthy's grating Chicago twang. Can't stand it.

58 posted on 11/28/2003 8:44:15 AM PST by Melas
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
LOL...... Hey instead of staying OUT of the traffic, I am driving toward it! lol...... I know, I'm an idiot.....
59 posted on 11/28/2003 8:55:27 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Pharmboy
My father's side of the family is Texan from way back (late 1700's and early 1800's). Dad was born in Boerne, TX and grew up in Marble Falls. Mom's family is southern Georgia (Valdosta).

Here are a couple of my observations about accents in the US:

1) Absolutely the best woman's accent is the high class south Alabama/Georgia one. It's like getting an audible massage when you listen to it. So soft and sultry.

2) Absolutely the worst woman's accent is Boston. All I can remember is hearing is "my f---ing legs" in that nasty tone. Blech!

3) For me, growing up in Austin and SA, that good ol' Texas twang always carries with it a strange combination of strength, confidence, and friendliness.

When I stayed in England many years ago I was always introduced by my host as being from Texas as opposed to the United States. Everyone around the world knows about Texas apparently.
60 posted on 11/28/2003 9:00:35 AM PST by mikegi
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