Robbins' 'Embedded' Play Not So Realistic

Fox News ^ | 11-28-03 | William LaJeunesse

[TomB]

LOS ANGELES — Embedded journalists brought the Iraq war live into America's living rooms.

But now, actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins has written and directed a play depicting his version of what he thinks happened in Iraq.

Robbins, an ardent critic of President Bush, as well as the war, isn't a journalist, nor is he a soldier who has been to Iraq. In fact, he's never been embedded with the troops.

[TomB]

Here is the story on Tim Robbins' play that's been discussed the past day or so around here. But is you are able, do youself a favor and try to catch the original report on Fox News.

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[Normal4me]

Guess the "Chill wind" for old' Timmy isn't blowing anymore? What a sad and pathetitic way to live ones life. They're hatred of president Bush has overtaken them so much that they just play make-believe in spite of history.

[kitkat]

***"Not everything is factual, and maybe that is our fault through satire***

There's that word again, SATIRE, that the leftists have become so fond of using to disguise their communist agenda.

It the play is satire, it should be advertised as satire, not opinion.

[Jean S]

"It is not propaganda. It is a voice of dissent, which is different than propaganda," said audience member Kadina Dayal-Halday.

Interesting logic.

[Paul Atreides]

"With all due respect sir, a lot of people in this country feel this administration went to this war with an agenda of their own and this play resonates with a lot of people who come to see it," countered V.J. Foster, an actor who plays the character of Col. Hardchannel in the play.

In other words, if a bunch of looney leftists believe that something is true, then it is true.

Does that mean that, if a bunch of people want to say that The Holocaust was false, and someone puts on a little play about it being a falsehood, then that belief should be validated?

I love how they defend their lies by saying "I feel this....I feel that..." No evidence, no first-hand knowledge....just that they "feel" that something happened, as long as it agrees with their worldview.

[Paul Atreides]

People like Al Frankenweenie and Michael Moore try to pass their Bush-hatred off as "just joking."

[John Valentine]

This "actor" is a dummy.

He seems to think that satire is based on a retreat from truth.

Satire is an amplification and distortion of the truth for dramatic or comedic effect. In truth, satire, while it does rely on distortion cannot be effective without a solid foundation in truth.

"Satire" that is not based on truth is not satire, it is slander.

Tim Robbin's 'Embedded' is just that.

[Paul Atreides]

It would be more accurate to name the play "Embittered."

[McGavin999]

The only chill wind that is blowing is coming from Robbins A$$. What really makes you sick is that good men fought and died for this piece of human filth's right to ridicule everything they stood for.

But then, this country has always had parasites sucking the blood of better men.

[TomB]

It would be more accurate to name the play "Embittered."

Oooooh, I LIKE that!

[hobson]

He also reported that a person in the audience called the marine a nazi and he replied very politely saying he was honored to defend their right to disagree. LaJeunesse
said some parts of the play were so bad he felt like he needed to keep apologizing to the marine during the play. Sad, very sad.

[isthisnickcool]

Hey Tim Robbins, I called Rosie O'Donnell and she said she'd have a theatre handy pretty soon tat you can use for your play. She just needs to lose a few million more dollars on her play then it's your turn with yours.

[Shermy]

In other words, if a bunch of looney leftists believe that something is true, then it is true

More than that, it is unquestionable and beyond debate. That is the arrogant connotation of the term "dissent." "Dissent" is not mere disagreement, but a higher level of speech or "voice" beyond reproach. Any reproach or contradiction is labeled "censorship."

It's easier to do than debate and learn new things an' stuff. It locates the "dissenter" on a pedestal and mitigates any self-doubts that prior prejudices should be reanalyzed, or previous world-views be questioned, or at least enlarged beyond blaming Ariel Sharon for every hangnail in the world.

Plus they're robots. If they weren't robots, they'd investigate a much more interesting story - that of Robbins and Sarandon and their years-long tacit love affair with Iraq. Funny, I don't hear Robbins questioning why he believed we killed 500,000 Iraqi babies and such Iraqi disinfo he had been mouthing for years.

But to admit one was a "useful idiot," that takes quite a man...

[irv]

The content of this propaganda piece should be shown far and wide, so the people can see what the lefties really believe. It's the surest way to guarantee George Bush's re-election.

[sirchtruth]

It would be more accurate to name the play "Embittered."

THE best response to this delusional theatrical bunk ever!

[BobbyK]

puke,phooey,puke,phooey, son of a b*tch's.

[Paul Atreides]

I wish that, when these parrots trot out that "dissent" line of bull, reporters would simply ask: "If your right of dissent is being squashed, then how are you able to talk to me....without being arrested?".

[mylife]

Lost in his own little "fantasy world"

Hey Timmy! blow it out your @ss!

Aww whats the point! it all smells like roses to you and your buddies!

[Dutch Boy]

Tim Robbins mental state has hit rock bottom... and he is now starting to dig. Dig little Timmy...dig.

[Paul Atreides]

It should also carry, in the last sentence, the fact that none of these people have said one word against Saddam or Osama. They give those two more credit than our President.

[New Horizon]

I hate it when these Hollywood leftists go all political.

What part of "Shut up and entertain me!" don't they understand?

I used to think of Robbins as a half-way decent actor (Jacob's Ladder, Hudsucker Proxy, etc.)

Then I find out what an imbecilic asshole he is in real life...it's sad.

Hey, Tim! Shut up and entertain me!

[geedee]

The content of this propaganda piece should be shown far and wide, so the people can see what the lefties really believe. It's the surest way to guarantee George Bush's re-election.

That's what I was thinking. We should have one of our LA FReepers go in there and camcord this sucker and then play the video so a wider audience can see it. The truth is our greatest ally.

[Dionysius]

RX for extreme depression when confronted with any reference to Tim Robbins: Rent or buy one copy of "High Fidelity". Fast forward to scene where Tim Robbins is beaten to a pulp. Play over and over again until spirits rise.

[Paul Atreides]

The stellar career of Tim Sarandon:

Anchorman (2004) (post-production)
Code 46 (2003) .... William
Mystic River (2003) .... Dave Boyle
Day My God Died, The (2003) (voice) .... Narrator
Truth About Charlie, The (2002) .... Lewis Bartholomew
Human Nature (2001) .... Nathan Bronfman ... aka Human Nature (2001) (France) (USA)
AntiTrust (2001) .... Gary Winston ... aka Conspiracy.com (2001) (Europe: English title)
High Fidelity (2000) .... Ian 'Ray' Raymond
Mission to Mars (2000) .... Woodrow 'Woody' Blake ... aka M2M (2000) (USA: promotional abbreviation)
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999) .... The President ... aka Austin Powers 2: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999) (USA: video title)
Cradle Will Rock (1999) (voice) .... Voice On Film Reel
Arlington Road (1999) .... Oliver Lang/William Fenimore
Nothing to Lose (1997) .... Nick Beam
I.Q. (1994) .... Ed Walters
Prêt-à-Porter (1994) .... Joe Flynn ... aka Prêt-à-Porter: Ready to Wear (1994) (Canada: English title) ... aka Ready to Wear (1994)
Shawshank Redemption, The (1994) .... Andy Dufresne,
Inmate 37927
Hudsucker Proxy, The (1994) .... Norville Barnes ... aka Hudsucker - Der große Sprung (1994) (Germany)
Short Cuts (1993) .... Gene Shepard
Amazing Stories: Book Four (1992) (V) .... Tim's Phantom (segment "Mirror, Mirror")
Bob Roberts (1992) .... Bob Roberts
Player, The (1992) .... Griffin Mill
Jungle Fever (1991) .... Jerry
Jacob's Ladder (1990) .... Jacob Singer ... aka Dante's Inferno (1990)
Twister (1990) .... Jeff
Cadillac Man (1990) .... Larry
Erik the Viking (1989) .... Erik ... aka Erik viking (1989) (Sweden)
Miss Firecracker (1989) .... Delmount Williams
Tapeheads (1988) .... Josh Tager
Bull Durham (1988) .... Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh
Five Corners (1987) .... Harry
Howard the Duck (1986) .... Phil Blumburtt ... aka Howard: A New Breed of Hero (1986)
Top Gun (1986) .... Lt. (j.g.) Sam 'Merlin' Wells
Malice in Wonderland (1985) (TV) .... Joseph Cotten ... aka Rumor Mill, The (1985) (TV)
Fraternity Vacation (1985) .... Larry 'Mother' Tucker
Sure Thing, The (1985) .... Gary Cooper
Toy Soldiers (1984) .... Boe ... aka Guerrilla salvaje (1984) (Mexico)
No Small Affair (1984) .... Nelson
Quarterback Princess (1983) (TV) .... Marvin

[John Valentine]

It would be more accurate to name the play "Embittered."

Oooooh, I LIKE that!

THAT'S satire.

[mirkwood]

Hey Tim,

[anncoulteriscool]

Is there anyone on the grassy knoll in this play? LOL!

[SandRat]

"With all due respect sir, a lot of people in this country feel this administration went to this war with an agenda of their own and this play resonates with a lot of people who come to see it," countered V.J. Foster, an actor who plays the character of Col. Hardchannel in the play.

feel, ... not think, not cite facts, not cite historical records, but feel ....

Convincing this LIBERAL of anything is like trying to teach a pig to sing; all you do is waste your time and irritate the pig.

[BlessedBeGod]

The content of this propaganda piece should be shown far and wide, so the people can see what the lefties really believe. It's the surest way to guarantee George Bush's re-election.

Exactly. I think Timmy should make this into a movie to get it as big an audience as possible. ;-)

[chiller]

"Embedded" sounds like a financial bonanza, doncha' think? I'm confident it will resonate with mainstream America.

[irv]

The truth is our greatest ally

Or, as Rush says: When they're making complete fools of themselves, let 'em!

[irv]

all you do is waste your time and irritate the pig.

Sometimes, irritating a pig lib is just good clean fun.

[Stultis]

It would be more accurate to name the play "Embittered."

LOL! Possibly the most apt and perspicuous sentence I've read on FreeRepublic today.

(The spell checker knows "perspicuous," but NOT "FreeRepublic"?)

[Stultis]

Then I find out what an imbecilic asshole he is in real life...it's sad.

He's not an idiot. He's ideologically insulated (red diaper baby), embittered, full of hate for his country, and downright evil, but he's no imbecile. (He's even capable, however rarely, of writing a nuanced script: e.g. Dead Man Walking, which portrays the anti-death penalty nun as somewhat naive, and the pro-death penalty victim's family with sympathy.) Of course his obvious intelligence only make the depth of Robbins' perfidy that much more cavernous.

[Hildy]

Let's pull together and write a play about how Bill and Hillary killed Vince Foster.

[TomB]

RX for extreme depression when confronted with any reference to Tim Robbins: Rent or buy one copy of "High Fidelity". Fast forward to scene where Tim Robbins is beaten to a pulp. Play over and over again until spirits rise.

I prefer "Shawshank Redemption" when he gets abused by the bull queers.

[John Valentine]

For me, I get a lot of satisfacton from "The Player", where he completely loses it when his life is threatened.

[TomB]

Then again, it's always nice to see him in public appearances being dragged around by the nose by his wife, Butch.

[John Valentine]

Let's pull together and write a play about how Bill and Hillary killed Vince Foster. I've been working on an alternative reality screenplay that works backwards from a present day reality that is strangely different and better becasue Hillary Rodham plays no role in it.

As we work toward revealing the past in flashbacks we eventually discover that it was Hillary that was in Teddy's car that night at Chappaquiddic, and Mary Jo is still alive and married to another protagonist, not yet to be identified....

This is all done as satire, and with good degree of bite....

[xp38]

You do have to admire him for portraying someone so far above his intelligence level when he played Nuke Laloosh in Bull Durham.

[Bullish]

Let's pull together and write a play about how Bill and Hillary killed Vince Foster.

Yeah, and don't forget the time they gassed and burned a church full of innocent women and children.

[Paul Atreides]

I'm currently writing a play, entitled "Embittered." It is about a pretentious actor, Jim Saranwrap, who, along with several other actors, fund a Middle Eastern terrorist, Yomama Been Rotten, to fly jets into Wall Street, a ranch in Crawford Texas, and the Pentagon. This conspiracy, funded by multimillion socialist celebrities, is to collapse the American economy, weaken the American military, and open a wedge for a more non-capitalist power to gain a foothold.

[hocndoc]

I don't believe Susan leads him around because she's "butch." I think it's because she's old enough to be his mother.

[hocndoc]

Has anyone ever heard such incredible circular logic? This statement is undeniably the most truthful statement about leftists: "We feel it, and those of us who come together to celebrate our feelings, enjoy having our feelings vindicated in a group, by celebrities."

Okay, this statement may be true of the members of any club or voluntary association. But, these people count their fan club activities as *evidence* of truth and justification for lies.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for alerting me to this thread. I had been purposely avoiding it because of my intense loathing towards Hollyweird leftist elites; and my stomach is a little queasy from overeating yesterday.

This jumped out at me:

When Laura Israel, another audience member, was asked if she thought the play was accurate, she replied: "Yes, not only on what is going on there, but it also showed how we are being lied to by all the networks."

How the *f* do sick puppies such as whoever that person is think they "know" anything about Iraq? And that the media is LYING to them - meaning not biased enough? These people are candidates for padded cells in a mental asylum, I swear.

[dancusa]

But will it play in Peoria?

[TomB]

I don't believe Susan leads him around because she's "butch." I think it's because she's old enough to be his mother

I saw them together once and thought to myself that in their, ahem, intimate moments, there's no doubt he calls her "mommy".

However, my comment stands, you can be butch and a mommy at the same time. ;-)

[TomB]

But will it play in Peoria?

It would be fun to see, wouldn't it?