[Vesuvian]

True true, a person should never push a car beyond its abilities or their own driving skills.

It's also nerve wracking to be told (in my case this was screamed at me) that in the event of a loss of traction apply the throttle : O

[Dasaji]

that in the event of a loss of traction apply the throttle : O

That's cool, isn't it? I have a close friend who sells new Audis and went to Audi School last year. They road test them against BMW, MB, Acura, Lexus & Infiniti in every kind of road condition imaginable. . .when my friend came home, it was like he had "gotten religion" and became an Audi fanatic. They hung up an Audi All Road in a pit with just one tire hitting surface and it walked itself right out of it. They'd race A6s against BMW 5s and 7s in serpentine cones and then throw oil out in front of them or gravel - the Audis never missed a beat, the others spun and smoked.