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To: Badray
Well, I never vote for 'Rats, but I won't vote for Bush either.

I hate Big Stupid Republican Government and their overdrive spending and vote-buying scams. Who needs this crap?

You said it correctly: why waste my vote supporting someone whose policies I adamently oppose? Like a total lack of restraint on Big Stupid Republican Government - whatever happened to "limited government", anyway? He won't even veto the most outrageous assaults on the First Amendment or on our wallets.

41 posted on 12/02/2003 1:18:08 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Hank Rearden
I hate Big Stupid Republican Government and their overdrive spending and vote-buying scams. Who needs this crap?

I guess even bigger govt. Hillary/Ted Kennedy crap is more to your liking.

Look it comes down to two chocies. I voted for GHWB in 92 and never have voted for a third party in a Presidential election. I have a clear conscious and can roghtly criticize the horrible 8 years of Clinton.

Oh BTW, I guess you would like Kyoto, the international court also. The medicare bill has the seeds of privatization and Newt has endorsed it.

When you reach your destination called "perfect political world" send me a post card would ya.

42 posted on 12/02/2003 1:24:45 AM PST by Dane
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To: Hank Rearden
I haven't made up my mind yet. If he signs the AWB, he definitely will not get my vote -- regardless of the consequences. If he doesn't sign it, he *may* still get my vote. I don't approve of a lot of what he has let happen, but I can overlook a lot if he does a lot of things right too because the alternative is so much worse.

But the AWB is my line in the sand. I will not reward him if he treats this issue the same as a democrat gun graber would.
46 posted on 12/02/2003 2:13:43 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Hank Rearden; Dane
Is the lesser of two evils not evil?

I am not sure what back-room machinations were used to get Bush Sr. the V.P. spot, but am certain that conservatives (real ones) hated GHWB and stopped his drive for the GOP nomination in 1980. Therein lies the reason Clinton was able to win the presidency with 43% of the vote, which is probably close to the percentage received by McGovern, Mondale and other Dem stalwarts.

I believe that we, the ones who worked to get Perot elected, are the ones who can righteously complain about the demons Clinton. Anyone who thinks Perot dropped out because of personal choice, that is, without being coerced, has no conception of what kind of person he was and never talked to the scores of people who worked for the man in the private sector and were ecstatic that a man of his character would choose to run for president.

Jr. has done far too many distasteful things and left far too many distasteful people in power, to ever earn my respect. It is not the "sins of the father", W has enough of his own sins. I will wholeheartedly agree that he is better than Algore, but that still does not make him palatable. Though I will vote for him over any or all of the 9 dwarves (but holding my nose).
68 posted on 12/02/2003 4:19:28 AM PST by David Isaac
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