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Dean: I'd 'Break Up' Fox News
NewsMax.com ^
| 12/02/03
| Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 12/02/2003 10:06:24 AM PST by kattracks
Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean pledged Monday night to "break up" the Fox News Channel along with other conservative news outlets owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch. "Eleven companies in this country control 90 percent of what ordinary people are able to read and watch on their television," the ex-Vermont governor complained to MSNBC's Chris Matthews, who then asked the candidate point-blank:
"Would you break up Fox? ... Rupert Murdoch has 'The Weekly Standard.' It has got a lot of other interests. It has got the New York Post. Would you break it up?"
Dean shot back, "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes."
A moment later the "Hardball" host pressed: "Seriously. As a public policy, would you bring industrial policy to bear and break up these conglomerations of power?"
At that point Dean seemed to sense that he had gone too far and began to equivocate, saying, "I don't want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not."
The leading Democrat then explained, "What I'm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one."
TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; deanoweirdo; foxnews; howarddean
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:06:24 AM PST
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past" Time for another Howard Dean led Two Minute Hate...


2
posted on
12/02/2003 10:08:15 AM PST
by
finnman69
(cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
To: kattracks
I'm sorry to speak of Dean in this manner, but what an asshole!
3
posted on
12/02/2003 10:08:17 AM PST
by
TommyDale
To: finnman69
Where's the hammer-throwing chick in the red track suit?
4
posted on
12/02/2003 10:09:36 AM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: kattracks
HA HA! Rupert will squash you like a bug Deano!
5
posted on
12/02/2003 10:09:47 AM PST
by
luckodeirish
(Feel His Joy!)
To: kattracks
It looks like Dean is a tad bit unstable...
6
posted on
12/02/2003 10:09:50 AM PST
by
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
To: kattracks
To: kattracks
Go Dean Go!!
What do they say about idiots who like to talk? Let them go ahead and don't interrupt.
8
posted on
12/02/2003 10:10:09 AM PST
by
demlosers
To: TommyDale
Well, we should grant Deenie this, he's the first candidate to insert BOTH feet into his mouth in one interview.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:10:45 AM PST
by
Grim
To: kattracks
To argue that he wants the American people to get their information from more than just "one political spectrum" and then to urge abolition of conservative media outlets is totally illogical.
The man is out to lunch, totally.
To: kattracks
Newsmax Title - "Dean: I'd 'Break Up' Fox News"
Article - "I don't want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not." - Dean
LOL. Hey, did I get taken for a ride here, or what? ;-)
11
posted on
12/02/2003 10:11:37 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Pero treinta miles al resto.)
To: Scenic Sounds
Are you suggesting that Newsmax led you on? Actually, Dean DID say it both ways. At least this time, Newsmax was accurate.
To: kattracks
"What I'm going to do is appoint people to the FCC that believe democracy depends on getting information from all portions of the political spectrum, not just one." Wow. Dean's going to break up See-BS.
Dean should be applauding Fox, not breaking it up. And besides, isn't that "censorship"?
13
posted on
12/02/2003 10:13:57 AM PST
by
Colonel_Flagg
("I keep myself in a constant state of utter confusion." - Self)
To: TommyDale
I'm sorry to speak of Dean in this manner, but what an asshole! I'd say that's putting it mildly...
I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is!
(Taken from a National Lampoons Christmas Vacation quote, tis the holiday season dontchaknow)
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:14:05 AM PST
by
BureaucratusMaximus
(if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
To: Scenic Sounds
Here's the quote:
Snip...
"Would you break up Fox? ... Rupert Murdoch has 'The Weekly Standard.' It has got a lot of other interests. It has got the New York Post. Would you break it up?"
Dean shot back, "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes."
I just heard Rush put on the Chrissy's clip, and Dean does want to break all media conglomerates and it appears FOX is first on his list.
To: kattracks
A more insightful followup would have been, "Are you planning on breaking up Time-Warner as well?"
16
posted on
12/02/2003 10:15:25 AM PST
by
HarleyD
To: finnman69
Howard Dead Free Speech Bump!!!

When will he suggest the partioning and establishment of Christian ghettos?
17
posted on
12/02/2003 10:15:43 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: TommyDale
Are you suggesting that Newsmax led you on?Well, it was just a short ride. No harm, no foul. ;-)
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:15:47 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Pero treinta miles al resto.)
To: kattracks
Dean shot back, "On ideological grounds, absolutely yes." At that point Dean seemed to sense that he had gone too far and began to equivocate, saying, "I don't want to answer whether I would break up Fox or not."
Too late... you're already on record, Howie.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:16:22 AM PST
by
Lunatic Fringe
(I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
My apologies for the one red one. I did cast MY ballot for RR, however.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:16:42 AM PST
by
Aeronaut
(In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
To: Colonel_Flagg
Censorship and fascism.
To: BureaucratusMaximus
Hallelujah, ---- ----!!!
Where's the Tylenol?!
--erik
22
posted on
12/02/2003 10:16:46 AM PST
by
erikm88
To: kattracks
good luck, deanjerk
23
posted on
12/02/2003 10:16:53 AM PST
by
petercooper
(Proud VRWC Neanderthal)
To: kattracks
Dean would adopt Colmes and hang Hannity, that would be his first priority.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:17:47 AM PST
by
cynicom
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: kattracks
Apparently these are OK: ABC,CBS,NBC,PBS,MSNBC,CNN,CNN Headline News,CSpan.
But Fox is one too many.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:18:32 AM PST
by
gitmo
(Stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. -GWB)
To: austingirl
Additional
HERR HOWARD DEAN Freedom of Speech Bump!!!!
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:18:54 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: kattracks
Mr. Dean....How about NPR???...Huh...More than one station there. Are you going to break up NPR???? Mister Dean
To: kattracks
The fact that he singled out FOX News (as opposed to companies like Viacom, Time-Warner, ClearChannel, etc.) shows just what his agenda really is.
On the other hand, he raises a very interesting point about the application of antitrust law to media conglomerates. I have a hard time accepting the notion of multiple-media ownership in a nation where some industries are prohibited by law from doing the exact same thing.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:19:24 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
To: Brubricker
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:20:34 AM PST
by
erikm88
To: kattracks
Can you imagine the media firestorm if Bush ever suggested - even jokingly - that he was going to try to break up news organizations hostile to his administration? But here we have the Democratic front-runner openly musing about breaking up Fox - and admitting that he fantasizes about suppressing Fox because of its ideology - and it will barely create a ripple in the national media.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:20:35 AM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: finnman69
That second picture, the one of Dean looking at the camera, has been bugging the hell out of me...he looks almost like a comic book super villian or something...nearly like some of the artwork of Alex Ross...
To: kattracks
Doesn't Murdoch only own around 8% of the market share?
33
posted on
12/02/2003 10:21:18 AM PST
by
ItsOurTimeNow
(Criswell - "And remember, my friends, future events such as these will affect you in the future.")
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
heh.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:21:22 AM PST
by
Frank_Discussion
(May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
To: kattracks
Smash the FCC!
There's a slogan to run with.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:21:23 AM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Spirit of '76 bttt!)
To: demlosers
Yeah, I saw that, too. ;-)
Actually, though, I favor as diverse a media as possible. I don't trust any one of them.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:21:38 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Pero treinta miles al resto.)
To: demlosers
Dean does want to break all media conglomerates Don't you believe it. Once he "breaks up" Newscorp (or at least the US broadcast holdings), he'll stop.
I'd love to know how Newscorp compares to, say, Viacom or Disney or Time-Warner. My guess is that the others own much more US property, much more broadcast property and, in general, provide more of a monopoly than the others.
And Clear Channel is small potatoes in comparison.
To: woofer2425
Time to PACK the US Supreme Court, if just such opportunities open up in Bush's second term.
'Gotta martinize the whole place for at least 50 years more of security and basic freedoms. There is no telling what these fascist goons like Hitlery or Dean would do in office in 2008, let alone 2004 by some quirk.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:22:11 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: Grim
Wow, that's quite a nice feat of yoga, too, getting both legs and your neck up up one's a$$...
39
posted on
12/02/2003 10:22:30 AM PST
by
Frank_Discussion
(May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
To: kattracks
Heck, why stop with FOX News?
</sarcasm alert>
To: All
can you imagine how many stupid things this guy says before november?
There is no way he wins Mass. or Minn.
I am stunned that dems are not in panic mode yet.
Just gets better and better.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:25:52 AM PST
by
genghis
To: kattracks
Folks I would not take his remarks lightly. I have always said that once the Democrats control both houses of congress and the presidency, the first thing they are going to do is try and restore the "Fairness Doctrine" to the media. This law said basically, the airwaves had to offer both sides equally of controversial issues.. The FCC dissolved it in 1987 after being the law for nearly 40 years. For more about the "Fairness Doctrine" go here:
http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/htmlF/fairnessdoct/fairnessdoct.htm
To: finnman69
The hitler howler monkey dean, is a scary dictator wannabe. He makes my blood run cold. He plans to destroy FOX to replace it with his propaganda machine along with cbs,nbc,cnn,abc, lat,nyt,wp,bg,.... dean is dangerous to everybody's health, and he is a doctor?
To: kattracks
If you let most MarxistSocialistLiberalDemocrats talk long enough..their true colors will come thru. The problem is getting the "deafdumb&blind" sheeple to notice..what their "leaders" are actually saying.
FRegards,
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:29:26 AM PST
by
Osage Orange
(Left is Right. Right is Wrong. Up is Down....And Down is now Up. Got that?)
To: kattracks
I would expect there to be an effort to destory conservative media outlets when the next Democrat assumes the White House. I know Al Gore for one has a bone to pick with conservative media outlets. And Dems realize there recent failures have had a lot to do with the influence of a conservative media outlets. This is why I implore all Freepers to be heartened and staunchly support the GOP efforts to maintain the White House. Otherwise you may lose more of your money, your guns, your favorite news outlets, and even possibly your property.
To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Sounds like Howard Dean would like to be "The NEW Number Two."Just damn.
If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:31:40 AM PST
by
mhking
To: kattracks
Welp, now we know what kind of Pres. Dean will make.
A fascist one.
Even Alan Keyes or other ultra-conservatives wouldn't want to shut down the mangestream media.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:32:08 AM PST
by
Killborn
(I'd rather have Big Bizniz than Big Guvmint.)
To: Doctor Stochastic
Where's the hammer-throwing chick in the red track suit?Ask, and ye shall receive...

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posted on
12/02/2003 10:33:13 AM PST
by
mhking
To: Brubricker
You wrote:
"Whadda surprise. Newsmax tells more bald-faced lies. Same ole Newsmax."
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Care to point them out....? Are you saying that Dean never said what is quoted in the article?
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:33:37 AM PST
by
Osage Orange
(Left is Right. Right is Wrong. Up is Down....And Down is now Up. Got that?)
To: kattracks
"Eleven companies in this country control 90 percent of what ordinary people are able to read and watch on their television," Well, well, isnt that just so elitist! All the time with the libs they have the attitude of looking down on the "ordinary Americans" Anyone remember emperor klintonius referring to "ordinary Americans" having "too many freedoms?"
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:34:13 AM PST
by
TLI
(...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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