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SFSU sentence for Menaker doesn't sit well with some
Jewish Bulletin ^ | unknown | ALEZA GOLDSMITH

Posted on 12/03/2003 3:18:19 AM PST by risk

SFSU sentence for Menaker doesn't sit well with some

ALEZA GOLDSMITH

Bulletin Staff

The verdict is finally in.

Tatiana Menaker must perform 40 hours of community service for a nonprofit community group with a charitable purpose after she made comments to pro-Palestinian demonstrators during a San Francisco State University rally in May.

No specific nonprofits were suggested in the verdict. But she cannot volunteer with any organization that is solely identified with a community she most closely relates to: Russian emigres, the Jewish community or the state of Israel.

"It's the epitome of hypocrisy," said Menaker's attorney Alexander Anolik.

While happy that Menaker was not suspended from the university, Anolik called the sentence, issued by an administrative law judge and approved by University President Robert A. Corrigan, a prime example of "the permeation of anti-Jewish bias," at SFSU.

"Does this mean the Jewish community, Russians and the state of Israel are not part of our community?" he asked. "Even in their 'alleged' justice they show discrimination and anti-Semitism."

He expressed similar concerns in a letter sent to Corrigan earlier this week.

Local Jewish community agencies, meanwhile, did not venture so far as to call the sentence anti-Semitic and discriminatory, but did express concerns of their own about the verdict.

"It's not particularly sensitively worded," explained Doug Kahn, executive director of the Jewish Community Relations Council in San Francisco. "It might have been better if the university had emphasized the type of organizations through which Tatiana could have done her community service rather than those which she cannot."

Seth Brysk, director of San Francisco Hillel, said the university missed an opportunity to send a positive message to students and the community.

"If the intention was for Tatiana to become familiar with an organization that deals with the group she was insulting, why didn't they just come out and say that?" he asked.

Karen Zatz, associate director for the Anti-Defamation League's Central Pacific Region and an attorney, agreed that "the attempt to take Tatiana out of her comfort zone and have her work with other individuals is a little bit of concern to us" because it comes across as "a negative prohibition."

Menaker, however, said she doesn't blame SFSU; the university, she said, didn't know any better. "We cannot demand from the gentiles to understand us as Jews can understand us," she said. "I don't hold any grudges."

Menaker was facing disciplinary action for calling a pro-Palestinian student a sharmoota (the Arabic word for bitch) and telling another to "Go f--- your camels" in response to other defamatory words during a May 7 rally.

Two pro-Palestinian students also faced counts, but accepted settlement agreements following separate hearings before an administrative law judge last month.

Because it is SFSU policy not to comment on its disciplinary proceedings, it is currently unclear what type of sentences the pro-Palestinian students are facing.

Therefore Jewish community leaders said they are in the dark as to whether or not the sentences are proportionate.

"At this point it is too early to know," said Kahn. "Clearly by all reports, there were actions taken [at the May 7 rally] by individuals on the Palestinian side that were far more egregious than any words that may have been uttered by Tatiana. So certainly we hope there is some proportionality in the sentences."

Kahn said the JCRC is more than happy to speak with Menaker to discuss possible nonprofit groups she might find satisfying.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Israel; Russia; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: academia; academicbias; antizionist; campusbias; campuswatch; diversity; educrats; freespeech; marxist; menaker; multiculturalism; palestinians; tatiana; tatianamenaker; universitybias
I heard about Tatiana Menaker in kattracks' post of her article, My Second Marxist Indoctrination.
1 posted on 12/03/2003 3:18:20 AM PST by risk
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To: rmlew; dennisw; Utah Girl; Dan from Michigan; Stultis; Cincinatus' Wife; Tailgunner Joe
If I can fight the KGB, I can fight this
2 posted on 12/03/2003 3:25:47 AM PST by risk
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From Walkout on War:
Disgruntled by the crowd of students, Tatiana Menaker, creative writing major at SF State called the protesting students spoiled children of democracy. She used to be a professor of Marxism in the Soviet Union and now studies at SF State.

"Those are spoiled children of democracy, all those kids never lived in a tyrannical regime," said Menaker, as she pointed at the large crowd at Malcolm X Plaza.


3 posted on 12/03/2003 3:28:04 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
Preposterous..Outrageous..Predictable?
4 posted on 12/03/2003 3:28:08 AM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
And worth standing up against!
5 posted on 12/03/2003 3:31:12 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
She should have called them 'red diaper babies' and worse.
6 posted on 12/03/2003 3:31:54 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Maybe she should have raised her shoe against them. What a farce that speech is punished. I don't care what was said, its plain wrong. Hmmm....sharmoota...gotta remember that one.
7 posted on 12/03/2003 3:36:51 AM PST by Adder
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To: onyx
Two pro-Palestinian students also faced counts, but accepted settlement agreements following separate hearings before an administrative law judge last month.

The pro-pali students agreed to watch 40 hours of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion on Syrian TV in their settlement.

8 posted on 12/03/2003 3:37:16 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: Adder
They're happy their anti-presidential speech is protected, eh? This is America. We can say what we please, no thanks to these SFSU administration slime bags.
9 posted on 12/03/2003 3:40:32 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
Campus Marxists are a funny bunch--until they end up running your country ***Both of my grandfathers were exterminated by Stalinist terror. My father and mother both barely escaped the Gulag. But here I am, with PhD students, being treated to a one-hour discussion about "homophobia" on campus. My colleagues are agonizing about how "Homophobia-Free Zone" pink stickers must be put on every door in the university. "But what if a professor or a teaching assistant refuses to have one put on his door?" one of them asks indignantly. After a few seconds of silence, another answers, "Well, then a committee might just have to be set up where these people will be taken to account." Serious head-nods follow. *** ----Related stories
10 posted on 12/03/2003 3:57:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Adder
sharmoota --- I also memorized that one! LOL!
11 posted on 12/03/2003 3:58:09 AM PST by onyx
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To: blanknoone
At least she told them to have fun with their camels.

Menaker was facing disciplinary action for calling a pro-Palestinian student a sharmoota (the Arabic word for bitch) and telling another to "Go f--- your camels" in response to other defamatory words during a May 7 rally.

12 posted on 12/03/2003 4:01:10 AM PST by onyx
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
C.W., way to put things into perspective. Marxism kills. These campus Marxists would silence their opponents with more than community service sentences if they had the power.
13 posted on 12/03/2003 4:05:53 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
In a heartbeat.
14 posted on 12/03/2003 4:09:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: risk
WOW, she has good fighting spirit!

Tatiana Menaker must perform 40 hours of community service for a nonprofit community group with a charitable purpose after she made comments to pro-Palestinian demonstrators during a San Francisco State University rally in May.

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Menaker was facing disciplinary action for calling a pro-Palestinian student a sharmoota (the Arabic word for bitch) and telling another to "Go f--- your camels" in response to other defamatory words during a May 7 rally.

Two pro-Palestinian students also faced counts, but accepted settlement agreements following separate hearings before an administrative law judge last month.

Because it is SFSU policy not to comment on its disciplinary proceedings, it is currently unclear what type of sentences the pro-Palestinian students are facing.

Therefore Jewish community leaders said they are in the dark as to whether or not the sentences are proportionate.


15 posted on 12/03/2003 7:47:31 AM PST by Tolik
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To: risk
"sharmoota"...

Learned my word for the day. :)

Anyone got any more? :>

16 posted on 12/03/2003 12:45:18 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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